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Kenmore Washing Machine Model #4025092


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#1 apprentice_samurai

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Posted 18 June 2005 - 04:06 PM

Humble greetings.  I hope this message finds you with cold beer in arm's reach.

OK.  So, my Kenmore washing machine has provided loyal service for about 13 years.  However, in what I can only interpret as an act of insubordination, the agitation system has shut down.  Removing the plastic clothes mover, shows that even the transmission shaft will not move.  Either by putting the machine in a spin cycle, or by manually trying to rotate it (using a pair of vice-grips).

My humble guess is that the transmission is locked, and therefore, it is a problem beyond my ability to fix.  And a big enough problem to warrant the purchase of a new washer.

My question is this:  Have I jumped to premature conclusion?

Any suggestions, or comments, in regards to this insolent machine would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

 

 


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Posted 18 June 2005 - 04:17 PM

Oh this poor washer, PLease do not try to rotate the agitator shaft with vice grips, the wrath of the Samurai steaming  entrals will cover your house and report you to the Appliance Abuse Hot Line!!!  You will break this transmission that is probably all right.  Now assuming there is 110. before your model number meaning this is a Whirlpool washer, and your washer drained ok, and the motor is running when it will not agitate or spin, you have just broken the coupler between the motor and transmission, such an easy and cheap repair that you will be jumping in the air and giggling in glee!!!!   :bananadance:
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Posted 18 June 2005 - 05:47 PM

Thank you Samurai ... it was actually my father-in-law who used the vice-grips.  I shall impale him upon a sharp object for such disregard to the machine's honor.

Indeed, there is a '110' before the Serial number, and yes, the draining of the water is perfect, along with the gentle hum of the motor.

I will go ahead with the new coupler ... indeed, very good news to hear.

This will make my wife very happy, and by extension, make me even happier!!!   :D

 


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Posted 18 June 2005 - 07:38 PM

Your washer will be spared from the junk heap and you will promise to never overload the washer again and cause this new coupler to fail..  And never let this washer get a glimps of vice grips in the future unless you want to chase it while it is running down the street in fear of its agitator shaft!!!   :witch:
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Posted 19 June 2005 - 04:52 AM

Help on repalcing the drive coupler here:

http://fixitnow.com/...acing-drive.htm


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Posted 20 June 2005 - 03:32 PM

The good news or the bad news, first ???

OK, the good news - I have replaced the coupler between the engine and transmission and the washing machine is agitating !!!

However, and I fear this speaks to my fundamental lack of appliance knowledge, the machine (specifically, the wash basin) has MORE wobble to it than before.

Now, should I be looking solely at levelling the four corners of the washing machine, or is there something I would be missing if I did only that ???

Thanks in advance for your help !!!

 


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Posted 20 June 2005 - 04:24 PM

We did not know it had a wobble before, and need to know the exact thing this spin basket is doing, Is the washer going off balance in spin? Is it walking out of the room or staggering like a drunk.  Did you keep it upright while changing the coupler, lay it down, or stand it on its head???  More morbid details please, before I dial 1-800-appliance-abuse.  ;)
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Posted 20 June 2005 - 05:41 PM

 

Here are the shocking details:

I took apart the machine with little abuse to the machine.

When trying to put the motor back in place, I was trying to do this with the washer flat on the floor.  After realizing I wasn't going to get the motor back on in this fashion, I tilted the machine assembly to a 45 degree angle.  At this point, the coupler meshed nicely together and I proceeded to clamp things into place.  However, there was a leather sheath between the transmission and motor that did not get put back in place.  (I was so frustrated from trying to put the motor in with the assembly flat on the floor, that when things fell into place at 45 degrees, I became delirious and was re-attaching in a mindless frenzy).

And now that I think of it, I put the coupler on the motor quite easily since the motor was not attached.  The transmission was a bit awkward, and I may not have gotten the coupler onto the shaft as deep as the coupler component was on the motor.  (Does that make sense?)

I fear I have been weak, and may need to approach the washer for forgiveness.  If this is so, is it disrespectful to tilt the assembly to a 45 degree angle to re-attach the motor.

Now that I've done it once, I think I can do it correctly the next time.  My only regret is that I didn't get to try this on my father-in-law's washing machine first.

Thanks in advance for your input.


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Posted 20 June 2005 - 06:01 PM

This motor is heavy, I have a hard time putting it back into place with it upright.  So since I have room in my shop, after I remove the case I do lay the washer on its back on a matt to pull the pump and motor and replace the coupler.  That way I can just line up the 6 coupler prongs into the 6 holes and the 4 rubber motor mountings into the transmission plate with ease, then clip them all back together.  Not sure what might move out of place at a 45 degree angle.  The brown slide pads might have gotten broken or damaged.  Do not know what this "leather sheath" is that you are talking about between the motor and transnission.  Think you might want to recheck your coupler/rubber assy. to see if the 6 prongs are in the 6 holes and all 4 rubber motor mounts are in the 4 holes.
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