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Whirlpool Senseon Dryer GEQ9858JQ0 - Back Panel Removal


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#1 DBJELLQU

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 02:43 AM

I suspect a blown thermal fuse from reading other threads here.  I have picked up the fuse locally, from a Sears repair ctr.  I am planning on a thorough lint cleaning of dryer and ductwork afterwards, as possible cause of blown fuse.

My understanding was that fuse is located near or above rear exhaust on dryer, and back panel needs to be removed to gain access.  I have removed all sheet metal screws from rear of dryer.  Back panel does not seem remotely loose or close to budging.

What did I miss?  What is the correct procedure for removing back panel on this dryer? 


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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:05 AM

See if ths helps.

http://fixitnow.com/...disassembly.htm

What exactly is the dryer doing, it it just dead or stops running when the start switch is released...

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:19 AM

I did read your link (thank you).  It just says 'remove the back panel' (no detail).  They dryer gets power (power comes on panel) but it won't start up or spin.  Symptoms seem to match those described here (http://applianceguru...orum2/6662.html).

I assume the back panel is removable by itself, as the first panel to come off (otherwise it would be a horrible non-servicable design).  I'm just trying to find out if there is a 'trick' to taking off the back panel, beyond removing all the screws.


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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:39 AM

Not really, removing the screws releases the back panel, might see if something around the power cord area is holding it or the two tabs at the bottom that seem to help hold the bottom of the panel in place on some of the newer dryers..not sure if yours has these or not..
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Posted 08 June 2007 - 06:51 AM

Can somebody confirm disassembly instructions on the Whirlpool Senseon Dryer GEQ9858JQ0 model specifically, with the goal of getting the back panel removed?  This can't be that hard.  I am probably missing some small procedural step.  All the rear panel screws have been removed.  The rear of the top panel lifts up a bit.  The rear panel itself is not budging, at all.  I think I need an appliance samurai.

I would like to give this another 'go' tonight.  Need some suggestions on 'what to try'. 


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Posted 08 June 2007 - 07:03 AM

As shown in this breakdown the back about falls off after all of the screws are removed...this is on page 1...replace that belt slide ref. # 38 also, this will burn the drum belt off, it is replaced by the normal idler pulley style..

The fuse you are looking for is ref. #7 on page five of this manual...

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 12:24 PM

Thank You Pegi for being very patient with me.

I have a big OOPS, no excuse, sorry-I-broke-the-samuri-cardinal-rule confession.  I cheated and did a reverse-lookup to derive my Senseon model number.

My model number is GEW9868KQ1 and serial no MP1016342.  Yes these came straight off the dryer this time.

That was an excellent PDF breakdown.  How do you get into that.  I need another one....for my dryer.

Thanks and SORRRRRRY.

 


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Posted 08 June 2007 - 01:07 PM

Well, that makes a difference, the back does not come off of this model, is riveted on, have to go in thru the front, fuse is ref. # 59 on this DOTT style dryer... on page 5, you will use the  instructions for the lint filter down in the door area, not the one for the filter in the top....This model will use the oval fuse not the bar shaped one please note, do not know which one you bought..
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 01:17 AM

I'm going to swap my thermal fuse part out at the local Sears this morning.

One question.  I really just wanted to take off 1 panel, and try 1 simple fuse replacement before involving a repair call.  Is the thermal fuse servicable from the front by removing just the kick panel, or does one need to disassemble the entire machine just to get to it?

Question 2.  How does the kick panel come off?


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Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:19 AM

http://fixitnow.com/...disassembly.htm

Use the instructions for the lint filter in the front...

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Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:50 AM

Yes, I have been following those directions.


"Sears Kenmore, Whirlpool, Roper, Kitchen Aid, Estate

Lint Filter in the Door: Remove the front kick panel to reveal the bottom retaining screws for the door panel. Now remove the top panel to reveal the top retaining screws for the door panel. Disconnect the wiring harness for the door switch and remove the door panel. Now unstring the belt and remove the drum. Here's what the guts look like with the drum removed. Here's a closeup of the heating element and associated components. "

Please help me expand on Remove the front kick panel.

I presently have the dryer resting on its back.  I can see how it has 2 clips on the bottom, and 2 clips at the top.  I don't know if there is anything else.  I have a taped screwdriver and have been trying firm, but measured, prying (don't want to break anything).  I would like to understand the actual clip release action that I should be attempting to make it work.


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Posted 09 June 2007 - 04:20 AM

On page 3 the clips ref #46 are pressure clips, you will need to push down on that bottom panel to release these clips then it will lift off of the two clips at the bottom.  Use a padded putty knife or something like your screwdriver to press down in the pressure clips area to release them.  The old metal ones were easy, those new plastic ones are difficult, you should be able to see them with a flashlight where that panel and the top of the front are seperated.  Press down the top of the bottom panel at these clips.
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Posted 09 June 2007 - 12:10 PM

Our metal clips released for us easily once we came in with a pair of putty knifes on the high side of the clips.  Originally we were wedginig in from underneath the clips (not working).  Once we hit the clips correctly they just 'popped' and the panel swung down and off the bottom clips for easy removal.

The Thermal fuse was accessible from the front with a litle finesse, and without removing any other components.  The old fuse was blown.  We lucked out with the new fuse in that it was the same fuse as the 'other' Senseon Dryer I was mistakenly looking at.

We also saw its buddie, the thermistor, sitting right next to it.  I had read in the forums that it was sometimes good to consider swapping this at the same time, because the reason for the blown fuse is still unknown.  It might be a bad thermistor, lint buildup, or something else.  Sears was out of thermistors.  I managed to re-route my daughter to a local parts distributor by cell phone minutes before they closed.  We swapped the thermistor for good measure.

Next, we went on our lint hunt.  We used a wand and vac to remove a buildup behind the lint screen.  I think our old screen had lost part of its outer gasket.  We came in at the rear of the dryer with a pole duster that fit nicely in the tailpipe, but there was not much there.  We used the pole duster on the rest of our ductwork along with an electric leaf blower.  There was a little lint, but overall it was in good shape.

We test-ran the dryer before popping the kick panel back on and connecting the ductwork back up.  The dryer kicked out another gigantic gob of lint.  I think lint buildup was our primary cause of failure.  I had the foresight to pick up a brand new lint filter from Sears.  Our exhaust was thoroughly blown threw.  We were going to be OK.

Me and the Mrs. are happily pushing laundry through.  With three kids and no dryer since Tuesday, we were hurting a bit.  It was nice to dodge a service call and save a little $$ by doing this one ourselves...with some help from ApplianceGuru.

Thanks Pegi, for sticking with us.


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Posted 09 June 2007 - 12:18 PM

You are most welcome...these style of dryers with the lint filter in the front have problems with getting clogs, not so with the original style with the filter on the top....might be a good idea to clean the dryer out once or twice a year....thank you very much for the detailed follow up, this will help others that have the same dryer with the same problem..:cool:
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