Jump to content



Learn appliance repair at the Samurai Tech Academy.  Learn more.  Earn more.


Parts Search
Site Search

FAQs | Store | Memberships | Repair Videos | Academy | Newsletter | Beer Fund | Contact


Welcome to Appliantology.org, the Web's Premiere Appliance Repair Resource!

The world-famous Samurai Appliance Repair Forums


To get started, click here.


Already a member of the Appliantology Academy? Just sign in with your username and password in the upper right-hand corner of the screen.

 


Photo

Siemens Dishwasher = Dag Nasty Evil


  • Please log in to reply
17 replies to this topic

#1 Daniel3d

Daniel3d

    Samanera

  • Chief Appliantologist
  • Pip
  • 11 posts

Posted 26 December 2007 - 11:09 AM

This time it was dropped its diaper.  Leaked all over the kitchen floor and flooded the basement below.  So I attempted to disassemble it to find the cause of the leak.  Well it has this plastic pan which doesn't want to come off and your site has no documentation on how the dishwasher comes apart. This is such a joy.  Any ideas on where one might find a manual or exploded views or anything that explains how to take this beast apart?

Also that folder sharing thing doesn't work for me.  It worked once but not any more. What do I have to do to get it working again?

regards,  Daniel

Use the Appliantology Parts Search Box to Find What You Need!
Enter your model number, part number, type of appliance, brand, or even a part description.
365-day return policy on all parts purchased here, even electrical parts that have been installed!

#2 Pegi

Pegi

    Sensei

  • Appliantology Fellow
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,120 posts
  • Flavorite Brew:Sweet Iced Tea

Posted 26 December 2007 - 11:18 AM

Might snoop around in here to see what they have, seems like I missed your model number.

http://www.kitchenma...dishwasher.html
Buy your parts here! Posted ImagePosted ImageRead More

If we helped you kick some appliance bootay and saved you some coin, consider helping' us keep the lights on ==> http://beer.fixitnow.com

Are you a Master Appliantologist? ==> http://appliantology...ppliantologist/

#3 Daniel3d

Daniel3d

    Samanera

  • Chief Appliantologist
  • Pip
  • 11 posts

Posted 26 December 2007 - 01:57 PM

SL84A305UC/01 Siemens stainless steel dishwasher. found a owners care manual. but nothing for fixing it.

Update checked all the micro switches and found them to open and close a multi meter set on resistance. Took the front panel off and visually inspected the controller looking for bad solder jouints. Nothing found. Found the drain line to the sink a bit slow. Cleared it up and it now flows fine.
It goes through a wash cycle and gets stuck on the final drain. the paddlewheel pump for the drain seems to never get something to complete. Without a manual it is hard to say what the problem is. Checked all the water level switches and they are free and as said previously, check out on the multi meter. Its getting late and this will have to wait until after work tomorrow. Thanks for the fast response. Still wondering about the file sharing thing. but that can wait. A manual that explains how this monster works would be a real help. Again the model number is SL84A305UC/01.

regards, Daniel


[code=auto:0]

#4 Samurai Appliance Repair Man

Samurai Appliance Repair Man

    Shōgun

  • Master Samurai Tech
  • 29,810 posts
  • Location: USA
  • Flavorite Brew:Sapporo Original Draft Rice Lager

Posted 26 December 2007 - 10:00 PM

Pretty sure these are Bosch-built dishwashers. Post a picture of the inside of the dishwasher or of the underneath behind the kickplates and I can confirm. If it is a Bosch-built unit, I can get you a service manual.

Water in the plastic pan means one of two things:

1. Someone used dishwashing liquid in the dishwasher (or just too much detergent) and this caused a flood.

2. The main seal for the wash motor left go and the basin leaked into the pan.

#5 Daniel3d

Daniel3d

    Samanera

  • Chief Appliantologist
  • Pip
  • 11 posts

Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:26 AM

 Here are the pictures that you requested.  I think that a Bosch Manual would be helpful so that I can get inside the mind of the dreaded Hun that designed this fiendish device.  I also found a parts breakdown in a pdf file which is what I am going to study until you send the Bosch Manual.

regards,  Daniel

Attached Files



#6 Daniel3d

Daniel3d

    Samanera

  • Chief Appliantologist
  • Pip
  • 11 posts

Posted 27 December 2007 - 01:09 PM

 So this is what I asked back in Nov07 and what you said:

Then you replied:

Measure voltage at the valve, should have 120vac.  If that's good, then replace the valve.  Problem solved!  You can buy the valve here. If you need more instruction, start a new topic in the kitchen forum.Samurai

On 11/24/07, Daniel Halstead[/b] wrote


Your Precious Words: I have a Bosch Model SL84A305UC/01 Dishwasher which has been making noise at the start of a cycle. So I took off the lower front access plate and found that the water inlet valve solenoid was vibrating to beat the band. Did a search of your site and could not find a similar "Seen it before" so before I dive into this and spend a valuable Saturday PM do you have any ideas? Is it just the valve (I know I am dreaming) or do I have to look further. If so what should I be looking for. BTW after a while the valve stops vibrating and so that might indicate that it is a control board problem. Where power is not getting to it initially but later it is just fine. (I know I am unworthy to have ideas and insights like this, that is why I pay you) Please constructive comments only and if you have to point out the obvious, be gentle. I have two twenty something sons who constantly remind me of my inadequacies. No neither is an engineer willing to dive into fixing a dishwasher. (Now you are dreaming)
---------------------------------------
This is the status of the problem:

This evening I took videos to capture the noisy inlet valve.  It gets 120VAC and lets hot water into the the dishwasher just fine.  I double checked the drain line and it is very clear between the drain pump and the connection to the sink drain and I can see and hear it is draining fine.  The problem is that during the wash cycle after the 120VAC is stopped to water inlet valve, it makes this vibrating sound and twice I was able to make it stop by closing the inlet stop valve and then re opened it.  Question do these valves ever leak or fail to close after the 120VAC is stopped to it? 

This thing did a number on my basement and if it was all for just a $30 part I am going to be very discouraged.  I  suspect this valve because I can't find anything else  that is malfunctioning. I can't find any leaks this evening.  The parts break down diagrams were key to solving how it works.  Please let me know you opinon about replacing the inlet valve.

regards,  Daniel

#7 Keinokuorma

Keinokuorma

    Sensei

  • Appliantology Fellow
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,259 posts

Posted 27 December 2007 - 01:37 PM

[user=170]Daniel3d[/user] wrote: 

The problem is that during the wash cycle after the 120VAC is stopped to water inlet valve, it makes this vibrating sound and twice I was able to make it stop by closing the inlet stop valve and then re opened it.  Question do these valves ever leak or fail to close after the 120VAC is stopped to it? 

This thing did a number on my basement and if it was all for just a $30 part I am going to be very discouraged.  I  suspect this valve because I can't find anything else  that is malfunctioning. I can't find any leaks this evening.  The parts break down diagrams were key to solving how it works.  Please let me know you opinon about replacing the inlet valve.

regards,  Daniel

Couldn't resist my urge to interfere. Yes it would be rather obvious that the inlet valve has turned evil. They can and will at some point of their sucky life.

Now it is possible to look up Bosch dishwashers on RCC, and see if they list valves similar to yours.

http://www.repaircli...earch for Parts

Dammit this new function on RCC is neat. It allows you to post a direct search link...

Maybe try a wider search with dishwasher valves in general, perhaps looking outside the Bosch/Gaggenau box gives more data to work on...

http://www.repaircli...earch for Parts
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
- Ken Olson, Digital Equipment Corporation (1977)

#8 Samurai Appliance Repair Man

Samurai Appliance Repair Man

    Shōgun

  • Master Samurai Tech
  • 29,810 posts
  • Location: USA
  • Flavorite Brew:Sapporo Original Draft Rice Lager

Posted 27 December 2007 - 09:32 PM

Yep, it's a Bosch-built unit. Here's the water inlet valve you need:

http://www.repaircli...R=154&N=1105846

Daniel, are you set up on the Xdrive yet? If not, you need to be because I have loads of manuals stored there, including several for Bosch dishwashers.

Yeah, that new RCC search function rocks! Sublime Master Keino discovered one of its unsung features: searching by part type or part description.

#9 Keinokuorma

Keinokuorma

    Sensei

  • Appliantology Fellow
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,259 posts

Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:04 PM

As a follow up, the least you need to post a link to search results looks like this...

http://www.repaircli...osch dishwasher

...so you may omit the link text after the keywords used... also the R=154 inserted to the string works to some extent at least, dunno if the referral works through this, though... can't verify for myself, maybe should ask their webmaster to confirm.

http://www.repaircli...osch dishwasher
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
- Ken Olson, Digital Equipment Corporation (1977)

#10 Daniel3d

Daniel3d

    Samanera

  • Chief Appliantologist
  • Pip
  • 11 posts

Posted 18 December 2010 - 09:09 AM

Well its Christmas time again and guess what yup the good old dish washer is pissing all over the basement again. The symptoms this time are that it runs but does not empty. So I checked it out and found that the intake for the discharge pump was clogged and the rest was clear. But the one really disturbing thing that my wife noticed was that at the end of the cycle it makes a really loud buzzing sound. That reminded me of the post above and I have ordered another inlet valve. My real concern now is: am I fixing a symptom or the cause? Or better said: is something causing the inlet valve to buzz at the end of the cycle or is that the sound of end of life for an inlet valve?

Depending on your recommendation my plan is to replace the inlet valve every two years or so. $30 is a small price to pay for a dry basement.

Also is there a Bosch Repair Manual I might get for the future?

regards, Faithful Fan Daniel. (What would I do without Sensei?)

#11 RegUS_PatOff

RegUS_PatOff

    Sensei

  • Academy Instructor
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 33,588 posts
  • Location: USA
  • Flavorite Brew:Chief NTSC Black & White

Posted 18 December 2010 - 09:35 AM

a few manuals that mention the SL84A

BoschDishwasherSearsServiceManual.pdf 12 MB

SHE44C06UC22-52057.pdf

bosch-dw-training-manual.pdf

SH Bosch _Dishwasher_Service_Manual.pdf

for diagnostics,
some manuals mention
Power Scrub + Delicate/Econo
some manuals mention Regular Wash + Delicate/Econo







.

one of my video productions: “Easter Seals: Walk With Me”

every day is Down Syndrome Awareness Day
"A Child Is Waiting" . Burt Lancaster . Judy Garland . 1962

RegUS_PatOff > www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw

#12 Keinokuorma

Keinokuorma

    Sensei

  • Appliantology Fellow
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,259 posts

Posted 20 December 2010 - 01:40 AM

Well, guess I'll post here again, after a long pause as well. New forum and all.

Unlikely that it is the inlet valve that hums at the end of cycle... more like the (drain) pump.
From your description as well as the parts list, it appears that it has separate pumps for circulation and drain.
You said you took some foreign particles out of it... and it still won't empty the basin, but leaks on the floor, and the rest of the tubing is clear?
My hunch (but only a hunch) is bad, bad drain pump.
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
- Ken Olson, Digital Equipment Corporation (1977)

#13 Daniel3d

Daniel3d

    Samanera

  • Chief Appliantologist
  • Pip
  • 11 posts

Posted 20 December 2010 - 06:02 PM

Thanks for the manual link. Looks like this is the pesky problem along with a new type check valve. file:///C:/Users/dad/Downloads/photo.JPG

#14 Samurai Appliance Repair Man

Samurai Appliance Repair Man

    Shōgun

  • Master Samurai Tech
  • 29,810 posts
  • Location: USA
  • Flavorite Brew:Sapporo Original Draft Rice Lager

Posted 20 December 2010 - 07:50 PM

Well, guess I'll post here again, after a long pause as well. New forum and all.


How nice to hear from you again, Master Keino! :dude:

#15 Keinokuorma

Keinokuorma

    Sensei

  • Appliantology Fellow
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,259 posts

Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:39 PM

How nice to hear from you again, Master Keino! :dude:


I just wish they made THAT size of Karjala beer bottles! :dude:
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
- Ken Olson, Digital Equipment Corporation (1977)

#16 kdog

kdog

    RoughShod

  • Appliantology Fellow
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,465 posts
  • Location: Canada
  • Flavorite Brew:Dickens Cider

Posted 20 December 2010 - 11:26 PM

I just wish they made THAT size of Karjala beer bottles! :dude:



Are you kidding? those are considered wee chubbies over here !
Help us keep the lights on: buy appliance parts here ==> http://repairclinic.com

For service manuals and lots of other goodies, become an Apprentice ==> Apprenticeship

#17 Daniel3d

Daniel3d

    Samanera

  • Chief Appliantologist
  • Pip
  • 11 posts

Posted 29 May 2014 - 08:22 AM

Well it the old Siemens labeled Bosch Dishwasher which until today was running like a champ. I come down this morning and it is buzzing away and there was water in the bottom. Clear the cycle and it drains out. Restart and the buzzing is back.

Thanks to your site keeping my prior posts, I reread all your superb wisdom and guidance and purchased another inlet valve. This time the inlet valve lasted 4 years and failed closed which is much better than open; which floods out my kitchen and basement below. This site is so worth it just from a stress reduction stand point. The ability to see past problems with one's appliance is invaluable. I am so glad that I ponied up for the Samanera Title. 



#18 Scottthewolf

Scottthewolf

    Senpai

  • Appliantology Fellow
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,875 posts
  • Location: USA
  • Flavorite Brew:Dunkin Donuts Coffee

Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:51 AM

You must be on well water.


Scott Wolf




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users


FAQs | Store | Memberships | Repair Videos | Academy | Newsletter | Beer Fund | Contact


Use the Appliantology Parts Finder to Get What You Need!
Enter a model number, part number, type of appliance, brand, or even a part description.
365-day return policy on all parts purchased here, even electrical parts that have been installed!

Your Sometimes-Lucid Host:
Samurai Appliance Repair Man
"If I can't help you fix your appliance and make you 100% satisfied, I will come to your home and slice open my belly,
spilling my steaming entrails onto your floor."


The Appliance Guru | Master Samurai Tech

Real Time Analytics