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Posted 16 January 2012 - 01:44 PM

Yes.. I believe it was you that sent it to me back in 2008....
But I can't find it :(

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:21 PM

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:25 AM

According the manual, there is a damper? Manual calls it a "Air Flow Tower and Damper".
I may open this up and see if things appear to clear and moving freely.
Or maybe find a way to see what it's position is when I do find the fridge messed up.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 10:13 AM

http://www.repaircli...R=154&N=1091672

 

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 11:31 AM

Thanks. I'm also going to be looking at the fan #86. (In the freezer portion)
Yes the damper may open/close.... but if the fan isn't blowing cold air up, then the fridge won't cool.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 07:42 PM

Alright. I'm sitting here with my warm fridge. Freezer -8, and fridge 54.
I pulled everything out and got to the damper. In the midst of fiddling with the fridge, I saw the damper open and close.
The fridge is now 0, 60.
I cycled power to the fridge for a minute. Plugged fridge back in.
I heard the damper open, and the fan turn on.... but when I opened the fridge, the damper closed, and the fan stopped???
Fridge is now 0,65. If the fridge is getting warmer.... why isn't the fan on and the damper open?
Bad mother board???

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 08:38 PM

It's been a good 40 minutes.... and then I heard the relay for the compressor click on and the fridge fired up.
The damper is closed, fan off. Compressor fan (opposide side of coil) is on.
The compressor ran for about 6 to 8 minutes. Then I hear dthe damper open and the fan came on.
I'm guess the compressor kicked on because the freezer got warm?

When I had the damper unit off, I could see past the fan, and I could see a bit of the evaporator. It did not look frosted over.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:40 PM

All,
Here are some photos I took while I had the fridge apart.


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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:56 PM

How's the Thermistors ?
http://fixitnow.com/...ed-thermistors/
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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:19 PM

ABout 2 years ago I replaced them with the new version from GE. I soldered them in and installed them perfectly.
I guess I could have a faulty one?
But the numbers on the display do make sense.....as in, they look like they are reading right numbers.
As for the one on the evap... I don't know what that one is reading??

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:42 PM

Coud the thermistor on the evap cause my fridge not to turn on?
If it was faulty.... and sending a temp that was saying the evap was too cold for the compressor to come on??

Also, what is the latest and greatest part number of mother board?
Or... is there a known version that is best for working?

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

Coud the thermistor on the evap cause my fridge not to turn on?


Didn't you already replace all the thermistors?

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:10 PM

Yes I did... But is that a gaurantee. I am thinking the board is done.
I was looking around on the samurai website, and I found a post you made where it directed to instructions on how to replace these thermostats (A post that I made :) ).
I think you did it about two weeks ago.
And for the life of me.... I can't find it now.... where is it? a "community" post??? I'm lost :(

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:13 PM

Yes I did... But is that a gaurantee.


Or is it a warranty? :deal:

I am thinking the board is done.


Sure looks that way. Could confirm with some voltage measurements but being intermittent, could be hard to catch. This seems to be the typical failure pattern with these muthaboards, though. ==> Main Control Board

I was looking around on the samurai website, and I found a post you made where it directed to instructions on how to replace these thermostats (A post that I made :) ).
I think you did it about two weeks ago.
And for the life of me.... I can't find it now.... where is it? a "community" post??? I'm lost :(


Yep, your outstanding photos were featured in a post at my blog. You're a Supah Stah now! ==> How to properly replace the thermistors in a refrigerator: an illustrated and annotated guide

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:45 AM

I just checked the link you gave. It appears "WR55X10942" is the latest.
Which is what I believe I have now. :yucky:
I wonder what fails on these boards.

I may set up a test jig to see what fails on these boards. I design lots of circuit boards for military end use... so I have a source and brain for high end components and over design features. :blinky:
It could be something as simple as the compressor relay. That compressor relay could be full of arc dust from the compressor turning on and off.
If so, a zero crossing circuit might help.... or a solid state relay.

((I doubt my wife will let me start up another project... I have a couple of side businesses doing similar things for VW's))

Ah!! Your blog, thats where I saw it..... this website is so big..... One could spent an entire day there.
Which can be fattening to the bottom...... and thus make me sluggish in the dojo.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:40 AM

Fridge is still messed up. Fridge at 57, freezer -5.
If the freezer is at -5, but set for zero... then the compressor is running right? Then why isn't the fridge getting cold?
I'm not hearing the fan running. (The one above the evaporator).
Fridge is now 60, Freezer at zero.
I've been sitting in my kitchen working for hours and I can hear my compressor coming on. I also hear the damper open, and then close?
Either way... I'm hearing the damper doing something every so often(15 -18 minutes). But I'm not hearing the fan :yucky:

Is it the board.... or is it the fan? ... or both.... (Has a faulty fan blown the board).

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:14 AM

You'll need to do a couple of voltage readings on the muthaboard to see if the fans are getting power supply voltage. This manual shows you the harness connectors and pins where you need to make the voltage readings to the fans. Can also check the thermistors from there ==> http://appliantology...gnostic-manual/

You can test the fans separately with a 9 v battery, details ==> http://appliantology...-and-condenser/

And some additional technical and troubleshooting info on the fans and dampers used in these boxes ==> http://appliantology...nd-thermistors/

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:42 PM

Excellent. The fridge is working..... for now. I will take some readings with a working fridge, and keep those numbers for reference.

Last night was frustrating.... I heard the compressor kick on a couple of times in 2-3 hours to cool the freezer.... I also heard the damper moving periodically.
But the fan used to blow cold air up into the fridge was not coming on.
I also hear the fridge go through the defrost cycle.
Once that ended, the compressor kicked in, and then shortly after that, so did the fan!!!! Now the fridge is fine...... again.

I don't think frost is building up and stopping the fan from turning. The last time this happened I had the damper off and I could freely turn the fan.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 08:46 PM

Got a new board.WR55X10942.
I waited until the fridge messed up before i put it in the new board. Switched the boards and with in a few minutes the damper was open and the evap fan was blasting cold air into the fridge.
I did notice with this board if I open the fridge, the evap fan shuts off. Firmware.
I also noticed that when I powered up the new board, it was showing the same temps as the old board.

Going to take a detailed look at the old board.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:19 AM

I took a close look at my old board and didn't see anything. The new board has been in for almost a week and temps are good.
They are staying with in a degree of set point. I have noticed that this board runs the fridge much louder. The fans are running at a much higher speed.
I can mostly hear the condenser fan... it's definitely running louder.




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