Magtag 300 QuietSeries Dishwasher 2&1/2 yrs old
Posted 27 July 2005 - 06:08 AM
I'm very glad I found this forum. I am going to make 2 attempts in my kitchen. I have HAD it. Dishwasher not cleaning worth a crap and freezer not making ice (brand new fridge 2yrs ago too). Hubby is ready to call the repairman (he is not handy with this stuff.) I just want it done and I'm not afraid to do it with some research/knowledge on my part.
First I'm tackling the dishwasher. New home, new maytag dw 2&1/2 yrs ago. Worked great until the last year or a little longer. I thought it was due to the arms clogging up all the time. So, every so often i would clean out and viola, it would clean slightly better for awhile. It still never cleaned great, would leave gunk/bread crumby stuff, and glasses started having cloudy film on them which would wash off by handwashing. Changed detergents, rinse stuff, etc. Nothing helped. I now suspect I never addressed the true issue and it's still manifesting itself.
I did the empty glass thing for 30 secs. It did NOT fill with water. About 1/2" water it it was all and it was a rocks glass! Ok, so I clicked into a wash impeller msn page and am all confused.
Is this something I can tackle? Anyone want to comment?
Posted 27 July 2005 - 06:30 AM
One problem found: 30 sec glass on top rack test FAILED miserably. Water jet arms are cleaned out sooooooo that means it's not pumping with enough pressure right? All the literature refers to GE models. What now?
Anyone point me in the right direction?
Posted 27 July 2005 - 07:12 AM
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 07:25 AM
I can't see/find any trap/filter in the bottom of the unit anywhere. How can I find out if there is one? Maybe there is something stuck there that is keeping the water that is in the tub from making it the pump to be distributed/redistributed.
I don't know. Thinking out loud. I suppose something could be stuck in the pump/motor. One would think there is something to prevent something from getting in there but that is prob too logical.
Thanks for the response,
Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:23 AM
Posted 27 July 2005 - 09:15 AM
I normally don't cut power when I pull the upper & lower arms to clean them out. Do I need to when I pull the filter? Prob be a good idea huh? Once I get down as far as the filter, are there any gaskets or anything that I would be wise to replace so I don't end up with leaks? What about anything needing to be lubricated when I put it back together. Just trying to think ahead.
Yeah, I tend to get a lot of crap in both the upper/lower arms but it seems to me not from the fresh water supply. It is little bits of residue from food, cornbread, whatever that makes it's way from the dishes. Is that what you meant?
Where do I order parts, ie. filter, arms, etc. I have gotten really adept at cleaning those arms out since I do it so often. Aquarium tubing brushes work great. I'm more worried about wearing out that screw for the lower arm doing it so often. But maybe I'll go ahead if they aren't much.
Thanks a lot for your help,
Posted 27 July 2005 - 09:38 AM
Sigh, wish I had a picture book maybe )
Posted 27 July 2005 - 09:57 AM
Posted 27 July 2005 - 10:31 AM
Posted 27 July 2005 - 11:12 AM
I'm talking in the center on the bottom of the tub. I just now went ahead and removed the impeller. After I removed that, checked it out, not cracked or anything like that, the filter thingy came out easy which had been under the impeller. I also could visualize an intake looking area about the size of a quarter under that whole filter assy thing that is clogged with some walnut shell & crap it looks like.
Can I just clean all that gunk out, can I just wash this entire filter assy thing, and put it all back together? Do I need to lubricate anything before reassy or be careful not to get water into anything in particular? Filter thing is not that dirty inside, but there are accumulations around and under all the individual part connections. Sheesh! All that to get at those walnut shells? I'll go finish looking now. I can't imagine that just some tiny pieces of shell or whatever that is could keep the whole thing from working right. But maybe that is just me.
Posted 27 July 2005 - 11:30 AM
whoa, can't believe that. Ok, I now that I have a clear view of the bottom of the tub, I can describe a bit better for you. There is a round well/moat that has water in it. In this well in the back 2 corners of the circle are two holes about an inch or so in diameter. One is completely open (which I think is the final drain hole) and the other has a plastic thing coming up from the center but with enough space around it to hold this rotting screw. I am not sure what that hole/drain is for??? to recirculate water back to be pumped up the manifold? I don't know how I am going to get all that rust cleaned out of that hole but I'll try. At this point, I don't think I should open up the actual pump/motor, do you?
What do you think?
Posted 27 July 2005 - 11:34 AM
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 11:52 AM
Before I reassemble what I have torn down, do I need to grease any of the screws before I put them back in? If so, what do I use? Can I run to store & buy it so I can finish dw tonite? What about spraying them with Pam or rub w/veggie oil? I know girlie answers but oh well.
Oh, and if you have a diagram of the bottom of the tub, would you look and see if I can replace that plastic thingy in the left hand hole on the bottom moat and give me part #? That screw & rust has eaten into I think. It feels loose...maybe I just need to try to get it out and clean around it too?
One more thing, if I have a hard time getting this built up detergent residue off of any of these parts & covers, can I soak in vinegar to remove, scrub with soap, and rinse?
Thanks again for all of your help. It's 4pm and my goodness, I might be done before 5. I'm not even going to tell hubby. He would never believe it. Course I do have to put this kitchen back together before 5:15pm, ha!
Posted 27 July 2005 - 04:24 PM
What is next? Oh, I still don't know what that other "hole" in the bottom moat is all about or what it does. Any ideas? The other one in the back right corner is obviously the drain with a little rubber thingy on top to keep stuff from the disposal from entering back in the dw.
Is it the pump? And that leads to my next question......with the age of this dw, this pump/motor should still be under warranty. Can I replace it myself or am I forced into calling it in?
Thanks again. You guys rock!
Posted 28 July 2005 - 03:53 AM
I'm frustrated cos the darn thing seems so close to working right. But alas, no.
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