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Old Kenmore started draining while agitating


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#21 kdog

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Posted 15 September 2005 - 07:24 PM

try wiggling on the timer knob and see if the soleniod cuts in and out,could be a worn cam in the timer causing this. if that fails,switch the red wire and the yellow wire on the wig wag,if it fills with water and then spins,you'll know the problem is the coil.
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 09:35 AM

Hi again - my apologies for misinforming you.  The machine is NOT agitating.  It does spin, but the agitator just sits there during the wash cycle.  I incorrectly thought that if the wigwag was moving back and forth, it was agitating up top.

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So, I pulled off the wires again and inspected them.  Nothing looks frayed or burned out.  Wiggled the timer back and forth trying to get a reaction, and nothing.

Does that mean I have a bad control magnet on the right side?

Can I replace it without taking off and replacing the whole wigwag?

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:20 AM

If the control magnet has a bad coil the whole thing has to be replaced, assuming that is the problem.  You have a bad coil on the control magnet, a broken wire to the control magnet or a bad timer....you will need to see which part has failed.
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:13 AM

Hi - I traced the yellow wire from the end to the timer and checked it for breakage inside.  It seems intact.  How would I check the coil or the timer?

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:22 AM

You will have to ohm out the wire and the control magnet with an onm meter, cannot tell just by looking at the wire, the white  jumper or the yellow can be broke internally. If you do not have an ohm meter take the control magnet to a parts store and they can test it for you.  To test the timer you will have to see if you get 120 volts to the control magnet with a volt meter when the washer is full and should be agitating. This is after you have tested the wires and they prove to be good from one end to the other using your ohm meter.
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:33 AM

Hi - Thx for the reply.  I did as kdog suggested and switched the red and yellow wire and lo and behold, it agitated, shifted to recirculate, and doesn't spin now.

Does this mean the yellow wire is bad? Or could it still be the timer?


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Posted 16 September 2005 - 11:39 AM

This tells you the control magnet is good, you still have a bad yellow wire or timer.
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 07:52 PM

when you switched the red and yellow wires,what part of the cycle did you have the timer in to make it agitate?
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 07:54 PM

with the red and yellow reversed,and the timer set in the beginning of a wash cycle,it sould fill up with water and spin.
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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:04 PM

Hi kdog -

With the red wire on the right control magnet, the cambar shifted the pump to recirculate. It filled and agitated, but the other side (where the yellow wire was) didn't work. I thought that was the spin control.  I figured the yellow wire was bad since the control magnet worked when I stuck the red wire onto it. I was about to cut out the bottom 2 feet or so of the wire and splice in new wire with a wirenut.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:05 PM

Hi kdog -

With the red wire on the right control magnet, the cambar shifted the pump to recirculate. It filled and agitated, but the other side (where the yellow wire was) didn't work. I thought that was the spin control.  I figured the yellow wire was bad since the control magnet worked when I stuck the red wire onto it. I was about to cut out the bottom 2 feet or so of the wire and splice in new wire with a wirenut.

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 02:37 AM

Now it's time to quit playing around, and put in the new wire kit. Even though only one wire is broke, all are similar composition and have seen the same duty cycle. Replace them now, and you will not be back in the near future. The others will break sooner or later.

The wire in the kit is designed for the constant flexing the movement of the control magnet causes.  Make sure you route the wires through the wire loops so nothing rubs on the belt.

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 04:30 AM

Here's the direct link to the wire kit you need:

http://www.repaircli...?R=154&N=470810

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 12:04 PM

Thank you.




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