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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:09 AM

Upon searching on this site I found a link to Job aid R92 Whirlpool and kitchenaid in door ice system. I have tried to download 5 times on two seperate computers and it aborts about half way thru each time. any other ideas where i can get this manual. Thanks

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:14 AM

Not really, it is 68 pages I believe, downloads in a few seconds here but I have cable.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:24 AM

Unfortunately I cannot get either cable or dsl where I am located but it definately aborts. It just stops downloading and all I get is the first page with a bunch of boxes. When I tried to save to my computer it downloaded approx 4.4MB of the 8.6 then stopped and then adobe reader says the file is corrupt and will not open anything

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:33 AM

I do not know what to do to help you except suggest you get a download program that will resume if the download times out, is there anything else I can try to help you obtain?
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:39 AM

Thanks, anything that will show me how to remove the ice maker without breaking something

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:44 AM


[align=left]ICE MAKING[/align]

[align=left]The ice maker module and mold have not been[/align]
[align=left]changed from the current models. However,[/align]
[align=left]the location, mounting method, air delivery,[/align]
[align=left]water delivery, ice stripper, and ice level shutoff[/align]
[align=left]have all been redesigned.[/align]

[align=left]Location & Mounting[/align]

[align=left]The ice maker has been relocated to the top[/align]
[align=left]front of the freezer liner, and has been rotated[/align]
[align=left]90˚. Due to code requirements, the ice maker[/align]
[align=left]heater area is now protected by a plastic (PVC)[/align]
[align=left]mounting bracket. The bracket is attached to[/align]
[align=left]the ice maker with three mounting screws, and[/align]
[align=left]is held in place by grooved tracks on either[/align]
[align=left]side of the freezer liner.[/align]

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:47 AM


[align=left]REMOVING THE ICE MAKER & THE WATER FILL TUBE[/align]

[align=left]Ice Maker[/align]
[align=left]Door Pin[/align]
[align=left]Ice Maker[/align]
[align=left]Door Pin[/align]

[align=left]e)From the rear of the ice maker, lift the[/align]
[align=left]top of the wire shield slightly and pull it[/align]
[align=left]back to release it from the ice maker.[/align]
[align=left]f) Press up on the two retaining clips (one[/align]
[align=left]on each side) at the bottom of the ice[/align]
[align=left]maker tracks with a fingernail of each[/align]
[align=left]hand, pull the ice maker forward, and[/align]
[align=left]remove it.[/align]
[align=left]1. Disconnect the unit from the electrical[/align]
[align=left]supply.[/align]
[align=left]2.
To remove the ice maker:[/align]
[align=left]a)Open the freezer door.[/align]
[align=left]b)Close the spring-loaded emitter door[/align]
[align=left]and open the ice maker door.[/align]
[align=left]g)
If you are completely removing the[/align]
[align=left]ice maker,
unplug the wiring harness[/align]
[align=left]connector from the ice maker.[/align]
[align=left]c) Push the ice maker door to the left so[/align]
[align=left]that the right pin disengages from the[/align]
[align=left]pivot arm, then lift the pin out of the[/align]
[align=left]pivot, and remove the left pin.[/align]

[align=left]Emitter Door Open Emitter Door Closed[/align]

[align=left]d)Remove the wire shield screw from the[/align]
[align=left]bottom of the ice maker.
[/align]
[align=left]WARNING[/align]

[align=left]Open Ice Maker Door[/align]
[align=left]Push[/align]
[align=left]Lift[/align]
[align=left]Wire Shield Screw[/align]
[align=left]Retaining Clip[/align]
[align=left](1 on each track)[/align]

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:07 AM

Thanks I got it out and jumped T to H to try to initiate harvest. Had the door switch taped and the optical light door also closed. Did not seem to do anything no sound at all. Still ice in mold. Could you please advise what my next step should be

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:14 AM

Hummm, believe with the optical door closed the system will think the bin is full and cuts the power to the ice maker, suggest letting the beam tell the system the ice maker bin is not full???
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:22 AM

The door is closed but the little opening for the optical light was not blocked

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:30 AM


[align=left]THEORY OF OPERATION[/align]

[align=left]The ice maker loads, the motor, heater, and[/align]
[align=left]water valve, are still controlled by the stamped[/align]
[align=left]circuit module, which is part of the ice maker.[/align]
[align=left]The electronic control will check periodically[/align]
[align=left]to see if the ice maker is at the home position,[/align]
[align=left](when the ejector stops at the 2 o’clock position).[/align]
[align=left]If the ejector is at the home position, the[/align]
[align=left]relay will deenergize, and remove power from[/align]
[align=left]the ice maker until the next harvest.[/align]
[align=left]To improve functionality and reliability, some[/align]
[align=left]important differences exist between the new[/align]
[align=left]In-Door Ice system, and the earlier mechanical-[/align]
[align=left]type ice making systems.[/align]
[align=left]The first is that a harvest can only begin if the[/align]
[align=left]freezer door is closed, and previous harvest[/align]
[align=left]conditions are also met (ejector at home). If[/align]
[align=left]the bin is full, and ice is removed, which lowers[/align]
[align=left]the ice level, it may take up to 5 minutes[/align]
[align=left]before a harvest starts.[/align]
[align=left]To prevent an early harvest from occurring after[/align]
[align=left]the last harvest is completed, a minimum[/align]
[align=left]of 50 minutes must pass before another harvest[/align]
[align=left]will be initiated. Closing the receiver’s[/align]
[align=left]shutoff slide covers the sensor and prevents[/align]
[align=left]the ice maker from harvesting ice.[/align]
[align=left]The In-Door Ice control contains two diagnostic[/align]
[align=left]routines. One is an optics test, and the other[/align]
[align=left]is a component test. There are two optics tests:[/align]
[align=left]one for the original style optics, and the other[/align]
[align=left]for the 2002 design optics:[/align]
[align=left]1.a)
Original Optics—An optics circuit test is[/align]
[align=left]run when the freezer door switch is actuated[/align]
[align=left]three times, and the freezer door[/align]
[align=left]is closed to allow a path for the optics[/align]
[align=left]beam to reach the receiver.[/align]
[align=left]B)
2002 Design Optics—An optics circuit[/align]
[align=left]test is run any time the freezer door is[/align]
[align=left]opened.[/align]
[align=left]2.
Component Test—A component test is[/align]
[align=left]run on power-up when the freezer door[/align]
[align=left]is closed.[/align]
[align=left]Both routines provide visual feedback as to the[/align]
[align=left]result of the diagnostic. All other system enhancements[/align]
[align=left]are transparent during the ice[/align]
[align=left]making system operation.[/align]
[align=left]The new ice making system consists of the following:[/align]
[align=left]an ice maker with an integrated control[/align]
[align=left]module, an electronic ice level sensor, an[/align]
[align=left]external water valve, and a freezer door compartment-[/align]
[align=left]mounted ice storage bin.[/align]
[align=left]The ice maker control module is a stamped[/align]
[align=left]circuit that provides power and control for the[/align]
[align=left]ice making loads, which consist of the motor,[/align]
[align=left]heater, and water valve.[/align]
[align=left]The ice harvesting process begins when the[/align]
[align=left]ice maker thermostat closes and signals that[/align]
[align=left]the harvest temperature has been reached.[/align]
[align=left]The closed thermostat applies power to the ice[/align]
[align=left]maker motor and to the heater. As the heater[/align]
[align=left]melts the outer layer of the ice, the motor rotates[/align]
[align=left]a rake, which sweeps the ice cubes out[/align]
[align=left]of the mold, and into the storage bin.[/align]
[align=left]Due to the placement of the storage bin on the[/align]
[align=left]freezer door instead of on the cabinet, the[/align]
[align=left]sensing of the ice level is quite different from[/align]
[align=left]the earlier mechanical (bail arm) contact[/align]
[align=left]method. The mechanical arm has been replaced[/align]
[align=left]by an electronic control that performs[/align]
[align=left]this function, and two additional functions. It[/align]
[align=left]controls power to the ice maker, and performs[/align]
[align=left]system diagnostics, which includes optics diagnostics[/align]
[align=left]and component diagnostics.[/align]
[align=left]The electronic control consists of two separate[/align]
[align=left]printed circuit boards mounted on opposite[/align]
[align=left]sides of the freezer liner just inside the[/align]
[align=left]door. The board mounted on the freezer door[/align]
[align=left]hinge-side of the cabinet is referred to as the[/align]
[align=left]“emitter board,” and the board mounted on the[/align]
[align=left]mullion side is referred to as the “receiver[/align]
[align=left]board.”[/align]
[align=left]When the ice maker thermostat closes and signals[/align]
[align=left]that ice is ready to be harvested, the emitter[/align]
[align=left]board sends out an infrared (IR) pulse. If[/align]
[align=left]the path of the pulse is unobstructed to the[/align]
[align=left]receiver board, the phototransistor on the receiver[/align]
[align=left]board will “sense” the pulse. The control[/align]
[align=left]will then energize a relay, which applies[/align]
[align=left]power to the ice maker, and a harvest begins.[/align]

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:33 AM

Perhaps you have defective emmiter/receiver boards???  Or the 50 minute time out has kicked in?
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:36 AM

Thanks for your help

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:40 AM

Quite welcome....;)
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:45 AM

See if this IDI diag. will help testing the boasrds...just one page....
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 11:58 AM

Pegi you have more connections than Velcro. The Lirary of Appliance Repair must be loacted next door. :)
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 12:03 PM

LOL.....that is cute.....not really, I just seem to be able to ferret the information out of somewhere and know where to look, most of the time.....good to see you in here again my friend.....;)
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