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Kenmore 417 front load washer does not advance timer or spin


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#1 reily

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 01:48 AM

My washer was started making much loader noise during the spin cycle. Since it still spun, I didn't look into right away.

The washer stopped spinning a few weeks later.

Upon Opening the back I found one of the shock absorbers broken. Bought and successfully replaced the 2 shock absorbers.

Also took apart and cleaned out the pump... found a Quarter and paper clip. :-)

Hooked everything back up and still does not spin or advance timer.

Tech sheet tests: No voltage between pins 5 and 6 on six pin plug (I have the washing machine on in drain/spin location).

I also do not get any voltage when in 'Heavy Wash Position' between pins 1,2, 6, and 10 of 10 pin plug and pin 5 of 6 pin plug.

I'm thinking the speed control board may be bad even though the fuse seems to be OK.

Thanks in advance for any and all help! :-)

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:53 AM

check the big Plug connector on the Timer.
sometimes an un-balanced Washer will knock the Plug loose / damage.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:48 AM

I undid and reseated both the big clear plug at top of timer and black one at bottom. Same bad results.

Wanted to mention Door lock seems to work fine and door lock light is on / behaves normally.

I can see now that there would have been no voltages. Could it be the timer itself?

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 10:14 AM

model number ?
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 12:53 PM

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 01:00 PM

Looks like I can get the part on EBay vs a part supplier for 1/4 the price. I googled this: 131908100 134011400 WASHER TIMER

Or is there somewhere I could get this an return it if it doesn't solve the problem?

Thanks,

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 02:27 PM

... Looks like I can get the part on EBay vs a part supplier for 1/4 the price.

... is there somewhere I could get this an return it if it doesn't solve the problem?

1) eBay (used)

 

2) Any part ordered from RepairClinic can be returned in original condition
within 30 days for a refund (less shipping).

Timer w/ 8hr delay
http://www.repaircli...?R=154&N=890236

 

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:43 PM

Thank you very much, RegUS_PatOff!

Do you really think a bad timer would report no voltages at all to the Speed Control board? Do these timers fail like this often or given the fact we were running an out of balanced load w/ 1 shock for a period of time?

Thanks for the link to the part place.

Not sure about the new Washer and Dryer. These seem to be in pretty good shape and less than 10 years old. I just hate throwing away good appliances. Plus, what others users mention about those washers no longer having a front access panel bummed me out - i.e. making that much more difficult to perform simple repairs.

Thanks again!

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:53 PM

... Do you really think a bad timer would report no voltages at all to the Speed Control board? Do these timers fail like this often or given the fact we were running an out of balanced load w/ 1 shock for a period of time?

... what others users mention about those washers no longer having a front access panel bummed me out

1) I'm not sure ...

2) other users report Tub / Bearing failures and / or broken Spider in your Frigidaire built Kenmore within 7 years or less ... :confused:
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 06:13 PM

1) I'm not sure ...

2) other users report Tub / Bearing failures and / or broken Spider in your Frigidaire built Kenmore within 7 years or less ... :confused:


1. If I got a timer is there any easy way to test it without fully installing it (i.e. put in black and clear plugs and activate it somehow w/o the knob)?

2. Yes, I've noticed the Bearing and Spider Vane issues from the archived forums. That is what I thought this might be before I found the shock and had been prepared to take the whole tub apart. However, from several posts it does not seem I have significant or uneven 'play' between the inside wash basket and plastic tub.

As far as the washer deal you pointed out (http://appliantology...uet®-fl-washer/) I'm wondering if you (or anyone) thinks it would be possible to mount the Kenmore Dryer on top of the Whirlpool washer? That deal is good only through today.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 07:06 PM

Timer . . . should be able to

Dryer on top . . . should be able to (somehow)
WFW9150WW installation & dimentions

sale extended till 01/12/2011 for the Washer
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 12:44 PM

OK... I figured out how to use the Volt Meter I borrowed. DOH :wallbash:

Back to tech sheet tests:

1. Power Good
2. Motor does not move w/ Water off and belt off in Reg. Wash Cycle
3. VAC between 5 and 6 = 120
4. VAC between 5 (6plug) and 1 = 0
VAC between 5 (6plug) and 2 = 120
VAC between 5 (6plug) and 6 = 120
VAC between 5 (6plug) and 10 = 120
5. Fuse Good
6. I don't think this Volt Meter goes to 3 M Ohms. 2M is the highest setting. This may be the issue.
7. Resistance is good between 1&2, 1&3, 2&3 at 2.6 Ohms

So, I think I need to find a better volt meter to check #6?

Or, just purchase a new speed control board and see if it works?

I looked at that Whirlpool washer... that gets many negative reviews. Would love to just get this working.




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