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Kitchenaid KUDS40FVSS3 dishwasher fills when off


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#1 Gary K

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 02:26 PM

This issue just started after approx. 1 yr no issues:

When "off", this dishwasher allows water to seep into itself, until it starts dripping out the front.

I can initiate a "cancel", which drains the unit. Then if I just leave it alone, it will slowly take on water until it spills out the front.

Have replaced the inlet valve, still have the issue (same issue w/ original and replacement inlet valve).

Any help appreciated,

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 02:46 PM

Does your sink drain slow? Or is the drain from the dishwasher hooked up into a garbage disposal? Your plumbing could be backing up into your dishwasher is what I am getting at. Make sure the drain hose from the dishwasher is higher at some point than the trap of the sink.

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 02:54 PM

Is the water filling into the dishwasher clean? Take a clear drinking glass of it out of the dishwasher and hold it up to the light ... smell it. Does it smell a bit stanky and/or is it a bit murky? Try to determine if it is fresh water or grey water coming into the dishwasher.
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Posted 25 March 2011 - 08:10 PM

Shut off water inlet to valve and see what occurs within the dishwasher
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 02:26 PM

Thanks I'll try these things and report back ...

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 04:04 PM

We have a RainSoft undersink RO filter unit that drains into a "Y" connector (along with the dishwasher drain hose) going into the ISE disposer unit.

So it seems that for some reason as the RO unit drains off water in the process of doing its filtering, that drain water somehow makes its way into the dishwasher drain hose and back-fills the dishwasher. So the dishwasher is filling from the drain, not the inlet valve.

I have pulled the "Y", no clogs, I have inspected the D/W drain inlet to the disposer, no clogs ...

I can visualize what is probaly happening, but I don't see "why" its happening ...

The RO unit should just be draining into the disposer without any back-draining into the dishwasher drain pipe and the dishwasher.

I think I'm going to reconnect the "Y" drains at the disposer and monitor things to see what happens ...

BTW the dishwasher drain hose is run high up against the underside of the countertop.

Thanks again,
-Gary K




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Posted 26 March 2011 - 04:33 PM

... the dishwasher drain hose is run high up against the underside of the countertop.

... and has an air-gap ?
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 04:39 PM

The first drain hose (drain loop) contains a check valve which should prevent backflow, unless of course, it was tossed out at installation. More than once I've heard "the unit came with 2 hoses, I chose to use the long one"

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 06:15 PM

Here is a video of that check valve in operation. I would check it for something stuck in it preventing the flap from sealing properly.
http://neighboursapp...t-draining.html
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 06:41 PM

Nice video in that post, Strathy!

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 08:13 PM

... and has an air-gap ?



No, there is no air gap.

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 08:21 PM

I don't think an air-gap (also called a siphon break) will help with this. It will prevent water from siphoning out but will not stop water that is on the dishwasher side of the high loop from pushing into the dishwasher if the check valve is not sealing properly.
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