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Wiring Diagram needed for Part # 8299649


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Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:23 PM

Does anyone have the wiring diagram for part number 8299649? Its a Whirlpool Direct drive washing machine motor. I'm using it for a home project...a ball mill. :)

I'm trying to wire it directly to AC current to get it to spin on the max rated 1725 RPM's.

So far I have "played" with it and figured out that the white and yellow go to the "common side" of my wall outlet...and I believe that the red from the capacitor and the blue connect to the "hot side" of my wall outlet, and the green with yellow is my ground.

I thought this would give me my max of 1725 RPM's...but no matter what wires I try..they all seem to be "stuck" on slow speeds.
Any help with the wiring diagram would be MOST helpful, or any suggestions are also welcomed.
Its part number 8299649

E113 Model # C68PXTDR-4559
Found here>>>
http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Motor/8299649/779499
Some pics of my motor and wiring harnesses.>>>>
MFG STICKER>>>
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/mfgsticker.jpg
Main wiring Harness>>>
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/directharness.jpg
Secondary wiring harness>>>
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/molex.jpg
Thanks for any help.


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Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:30 PM

Grand Master Reg helped someone adapt this motor in this topic ==> http://appliantology...to-general-use/

Might be some goodies there.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:42 PM

lol. Already ahead of you Samurai. I looked that one over 30 minutes before I posted this and thats the topic that got me this far..lol lol.

Yes, they appear to be very similar, however, I cannot get the capacitor to "start" the motor. (I have to prime it by hand to get her going)...Nor can I seem to find the fastest speed wiring. All the wires I try to tie together all seem to be the same speed.

Also, concerning the start capacitor,....I have a electronic volt / ohm meter....first I tried to discharge and current stored up (it didnt do the typical spark snap sound im accustomed to hearing), and I put my leads to it. It went to 0.0000 ohms to open and then when switched went from 35.000 ohms and steadily fell. Im assuming this is a good capacitor??

Its like its stuck on slow speed only no matter what wiring combo I try. :(

Edited by -=Xploitz=-, 13 July 2011 - 06:43 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:35 PM

that's an odd Motor ...
got any other Motor to use instead ?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:42 PM

Yes, I have another, but it doesn't have a start capacitor on it...but, I can get it to run on full speed no problems.

Only problem I would face switching motors is that I've already mounted this accursed motor with wood glue, metal tie-downs, drilling (precise holes)etc.. lol Nothing would line up! :(

Wasn't sure if I could just wire in a start capacitor on a motor that doesn't have one or not. I do refrigeration for a living....not washing machines and driers. :P These motors are a mystery to me.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:06 PM

not all motor use Start Capacitors . . .
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:12 PM

Is it SAFE to try to wire in a start capacitor to another motor of similar h/p that didn't have a start capacitor?? I don't know...just asking before I try it and possibly end up killing myself.

That would be a lesson I'd unfortunately get to learn for a split nanosecond and then forget it forever. :nuke:

The convenience of not having to start the damn thing by hand is why I mounted it over the other one I have.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:08 PM

Not all Motors use Start Capacitors...
Do you have a Motor part number ?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:16 PM

Its a GE motor

5KH42DT74S

115 60HZ 8.0A 1725RPM 450M B3
PCB 103B INS CL B 40C AMB

Has 5 wires coming out of the motors windings itself. >>>>

Orange, Yellow, White, Black, and a old blue colored wire...kinda like the colors blue and gray mixed together for the 5th wire

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:14 AM

Its a GE motor
5KH42DT74S

such "old" Motors . . .

here's the info for the first Motor.
Motor uses a Capacitor and a "Motor Start Module" :kopkrab:
Tech Sheet - 3954051.pdf
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:20 AM

Odd, it directed me to mediafire, then to another site. I couldn't download the pdf.


***edit***

Now all of the sudden I can download it. <<<weird>>>

Edited by -=Xploitz=-, 14 July 2011 - 11:27 AM.


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:59 AM

Well, I saved the motor start module as well, and still even with the tech sheet you provided, I cannot figure out how to wire this beast together to get it to do both (1.) Starting on its own without me physically spinning it once it "hums". (2) Get it on high speed only (1725 RPM's)

Nightmare of a motor this one is. :wallbash:

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 12:09 PM

This on the GE "older" motor with 5 wires coming out of the windings>>>>>



Without a wiring diagram, I got it to start, but not on its own...I had to prime it by hand when the motor energized to get her to run. Here's how I set up the wires>>>>

Again, this was with "blind luck" and very little electrical knowledge.




White and yellow were twisted and capped off together

Orange went to the hot side on my ac outlet

Blue went to my "neutral" side on my ac outlet

Black wire was capped off



I always assumed that black was the hot though?




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