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Refrig actually blew up!

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Anyone every see anything like this happen before????

I don't have brand/model/serial#, was told it was a Samsung but it looks more like a Whirlpool or KitchenAid SxS.

The property manager that I do work for called me and asked If I had every heard of a refrigerator blowing up before. I said no, not actually blowing up but yes to burning up either defrost heater ends or the overload relay actually melting down and she said NO, it really blew up, food all over the kitchen and two windows in the kitchen blew out.

I didn't get to go out and look at it, the tenants had already hauled it off to the dump per the instructions of the property owner.

When she said it actually blew up the only thing I could suggest was maybe the tenants were cooking up some of that new meth in a bottle that the tweakers are doing now days and they threw the bottle in the freezer to try and stop a run away chemical reaction. She said the tenants don't appear to be that type of people.

Even after seeing the picture I still can't believe it was anything from the refrigerator itself that caused this.

She said it was only a little over a year old and sent me this picture that was taken of the destruction....

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Holy crap! Never seen anything like that...appears to have originated in the freezer compartment.

I think your one bottle theory is as good as any.

looks like it actually blew the doors off! I would have loved to seen it(from a distance).

Not all tweakers look the part...

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That fridge blew up from something placed inside it.

They're crypto-tweakers.

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At least all those booze bottles were spared.

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This conversation probably preceded the explosion.

Tenant: " Mr. Landlord I hate this fridge, it always breaking down."

Landlord: " Mr. Tenant, I know I've had your fridge repaired 4 or 5 times but it is a relatively new fridge, I will send another repair person out."

Tenant: "Nevermind"

Chalk up another victory to humans in the continuing saga of "APPLIANCE WARS!"

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has the Sealed System on this Fridge ever been serviced ?

In Korea, replacement air-conditioning refrigerant imported from China

has been found to contain not only corrosive chemicals that can weaken iron, aluminum, and rubber components.

Worse, it also includes highly explosive chloromethane gas. :burnin:

http://www.thecarcon...rant-from-china

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A Whirlpool unit.

I agree with Budget---something odd about this one.

Why haul it off to the dump if there's a "defect" (especially a safety-related one) and thereby dispose of evidence that may prove so?

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At least all those booze bottles were spared.

aahhh hhhaaa !

maybe an open bottle of alcohol (vapors) ?

But, in the Freezer ?

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After further investigation of that photograph, I think the monkey in the backround knows something. :silly:

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That monkey looks like just the type to stir up some kind of "experimental recipe".

"Evil Monkey" perhaps?

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... and sent me this picture that was taken of the destruction....

... ahh .. the "exploded view"

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If you're going to blow up a refrigerator, at least blow up a GE refrigerator.

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I talked to the property manager about this again today. They were going to have the tenant go to the place where it was dumped to get the model/serial# info. She said it is for sure a Samsung but I think she is wrong, (From the filter mount and wire across where the drip pan goes it looks all Whirlpool).

She found some info about refrigs exploding over in the UK area, using a new blend called GreenFreeze, R600?

http://www.dailymail...-bomb-site.html

http://www.dailymail...ly-coolant.html

The problem appears to result from a widespread switch to Greenfreeze technology over the past 15 years and the use of isobutane and propane hydrocarbon gases as refrigerants.

As far as I know everything in the US is still R134a, (I don't do sealed system work so may not be up on the latest).

But upon talking to a neighbor she got this info: (Which points to tenants being the cause of this and more in line with my initial thoughts, drug making, and Kurtius is absolutely correct - the explosion was in the freezer compartment).

She talked to a neighbor that heard the explosion who ran over and entered the residence without knocking after hearing the explosion to make sure everything was OK.

The neighbor reported that they saw some glass tubes filled with marijuana/buds and all the food was from the refrig, no shelves or anything else was in the freezer compartment, (they had the shelves out and were making hash/THC oils by flowing butane thru the bud filled glass tubes). I've never heard of people putting the extraction tubes in a freezer and no one was injured which you would think from the damage if they were doing some process of that nature with maybe tubes running into the freezer they would have to have some kind of injuries with the damage that was done. I have heard of someone that blew the wall of a house out using this butane THC oil extraction method.

Even if they were doing the above, I can't think of anything in the freezer that would make a spark to light the butane fumes, (only thing I can think of is if the t-stat controls are mechanical the t-stat open/close points would spark but would seem that the explosion should have been more in the refrig compartment if that were the case).

Edited by Budget Appliance Repair

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... I can't think of anything in the freezer that would make a spark.

... Defrost T-stat

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... ahh .. the "exploded view"

Only LG and Samsung call their illustrated parts look up the "exploded view." They need to be blown up too!

Would dry ice stored in the freezer blow up?

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Fumes from the Isopropanol Alcohol used to make the Hash Oil

Think: Richard Pryor

Tennants were likely more than happy to get that "evidence" into the dump

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How did they manage not to get busted in this deal?

damn sure should count their blessing...

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Several years ago I worked for a company that would take evidence given to them by insurance companies and inspect it. The owners were very crooked and wanted everything to point to the manufacturers. I dealt with the items that had burned. One day I was asked to inspect and identify the manufacturer of a refrigerator, I wasn't to inspect it because it had already been done elsewhere. According to the paper work that accompanied the refrigerator the person who inspected it had a PHD in something, and stated that there was a leak in the condesor coil that caused oil and refrigerant to leak out. Due to the leak the compressor cycled on, overheated and tripped the overload. The parting spark from the overload ignited the oil and refrigerant, thus causing the fire. I checked it out, found it was a GE top mount. The supervisor commented about how it made sense what the PHD said. When asked how many leaks in the condensor he had fixed the answer was none. When he asked me my answer was more than I can count, and none had caught fire or leaked that much oil. That with the fact that 134A isn't flammable, and my experience from working for a factory service for years told me that the PHD wasn't correct.

With that long story said, looking at the side by side and comparing to the one in the UK the damage is a lot different and more extensive on the side by side. It looks more "broken" than melted. I would expect some melting and some black sooting from anything electrical or something ignited by a spark. I agree that it was something placed inside and I'm positive the monkey's mouth is open due to what was witnessed.

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... Defrost T-stat

I thought of the defrost t-stat but I don't really think that would be the cause. All the defrost t-stats that I've seen are pretty well sealed up so no way for the fumes to get to the spark.

I was thinking more about this and if this is a Whirlpool, there was most likely an icemaker in the freezer. The standard modular icemakers make some pretty good arches from the contacts on the circuit trace board under the main gear and the icemaker usually has a duct that is directing the circulated air, (carrying any fumes with it), right to the icemaker.

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Fumes from the Isopropanol Alcohol used to make the Hash Oil

Think: Richard Pryor

Tennants were likely more than happy to get that "evidence" into the dump

Kdog, not Isopropyl Alcohol, they do use that in some methods. There's a method where they use BUTANE lighter fuel, a couple cans of it pumped thru a tube packed full of the marijuana and what comes out the other end is the OIL they want. Much cleaner but much more dangerous. The butane is just another solvent that will leach the THC out pretty much like Isopropyl Alcohol but evaporates away much better then Isopropyl Alcohol.

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How did they manage not to get busted in this deal?

damn sure should count their blessing...

Probably because the evidence was gone before any fire or police personal came. The tenant doesn't even know that the property manager knows about the glass tubes full of marijuana. They don't know that the neighbor that came in right after the explosion talked to the property manager.

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Dang willie, you seem pretty knowledgeable about this hash oil process..... :beatnik:;)

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Defrost heater burned out on a defrost cycle with all that butane gas in there. KaBoom! :woot:

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:teehee: Guess I'm still stuck in the '70's going around the table with Kelso ...............

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