Kenmore dryer possessed - help!
Posted 02 May 2005 - 11:28 AM
Posted 02 May 2005 - 04:34 PM
Posted 03 May 2005 - 06:50 PM
How far from the dryer outlet is the washer drain? If the drain tube is slightly restricted and is near, there may be some overflow (possibly inside the wall even) that could be the culprit. I had a problem a few months ago when a porrly soldered water valve broke loose and started leaking. I had to remove a section of drywall and do some fast torch fu in order to get She Who Must Be Obeyed to stop asking "When are you going to turn the water back on??". If there is water present, there must be a source; in a laundry room the logical suspect is the washer or its' supply. Thing like this aren't supposed to happen, but...
Posted 06 May 2005 - 10:32 AM
Anyway, I don't think that's the source. here's where I'm really starting to get frustrated. My roofing guy is reluctant to come out and get on the roof, because he says that, I had a leak, I would know it. the electrician doesn't want to put in another outlet or tear out the sheetrock to dry anything out, until the roof is checked. His theory is, that if there is a leak, fixing it isn't going to work because I'll be screwed as soon as it rains again.
My roofing guy wanted to know if there is a wurge of power to the dryer when it turns on or off? he's thinking that, if so, maybe that surge is what's throwing the breaker and shorting the outlet? I don't think that could be it, but I told him I'd ask.
Posted 06 May 2005 - 11:45 AM
I've seen this slime once and it was due to a broken liner on a hot water heater, any pipes running above the outlet that could be leaking(ozzing)
I told you it was bizarre. Almost reminded me of the ecto stuff from Ghostbusters. That's why I think it's possessed...
Also, and this was very strange, can't remember if I've said this or not. The first time it blew, the stuff was sticky and wet to the touch which is why my electrician friend thought that soap had gotten on it. The second time - dry as can be.
Posted 06 May 2005 - 11:54 AM
Posted 06 May 2005 - 12:03 PM
Replacing the recp. and it does it again?
Remove the recpt. from the wall and see if water is present in the recept. box in the morning.
Good way to tell if water is there tomorrow is to put some tissue paper into the box and if it is damp or wet it will show you, has it been raining a lot lately? still gut feeling is that water is getting in the wall from some where:banana:
Posted 06 May 2005 - 05:47 PM
Posted 11 May 2005 - 05:57 AM
There should be a plumbing vent stack poking out of the roof near that laundry room. Around that stack is a black rubber boot. I've seen some situations where that boot pulls away from the stack leaving a gap. The rain gets into that gap and follows the vent stack right down into the house. Then, it can drip onto other items in the walls and ceiling until it's finally noticeable to you.
If there is no roof leak you'll most likely be able to figure out the exact cause of the water if you remove the sheetrock. As others have said, that water's coming from somewhere.
Another reason to remove the sheetrock is to let the stud bay dry out thoroughly to prevent mold growth. If mold is already growing use a bleach/water solution to kill it. Be sure to do this job thoroughly.
And, the green may be caused by oxidation of the copper wires which may mean you'll need to do a replacement of a section of damaged wires.
Finally, please don't turn that breaker back on until you're absolutely sure this problem is 100% resolved. You could burn your house down if the short happens in the wall next time.
Posted 11 May 2005 - 08:51 AM
And I have no intention of doing anything with that circuit breaker until I know this is fixed. I realize how lucky I was the last time, trust me.
Posted 07 July 2005 - 10:32 PM
Do you have any CHILDREN in the house that could be squirting
FABRIC SOFTENER or LIQUID DETERGENT in the OUTLET ????
I saw Dennis The Menace, and having been a child myself,
I know sometimes their little brains come up with the most amazing things to do that defy
any kind of logic..
The Wizard Of Odds!
Posted 08 July 2005 - 07:00 AM
here's where we finally ended up with this saga. My roof guy went up into my attic during a major downpour, figuring this was the best time to find a leak. Bone-dry everywhere. Walked the entire length of my house twice. Nothing.
So, my electrical guy came back over, and checked out the inside of the outlet. Bone-dry, nothing. So, we installed a new outlet, with water-proof tape on all circuits, and also put a new cord on the dryer, in case the dryer plug was the actual culprit. It's been almost a month now, and we're still drying away. I don't know what the actual original problem was, but something we did, fixed it.
Thanks to all of you for your help and ideas! This place is great.
Posted 05 October 2005 - 03:11 PM
I don't mean to throw a monkey wrench in things , but...are you sure that you fixed it? Is your washer discharge line in a recessed wall box w/ the water supplies? If it were the washer discharge line overflowing that caused the original problem (i.e sharing the same or similar wall space w/ the 220v line), your box would have been dry at this time since (I am assuming since no mention to the contrary) that w/o the dryer you most likely weren't using the washer...ergo no water source. Now that everything is "waterproofed" it may not be getting into the dryer receptacle, but still leaking. Or not. Washing machine discharge lines clog for odd reasons, and the clog may have resolved and never show again... but if I had 220v mixing w/water/soap... I'd wanna be damn sure.
Just My .02
Posted 06 October 2005 - 05:12 AM
Posted 06 October 2005 - 01:19 PM
Sorry, didn't mean to be alarmist... just have seen it happen too many times where the sypmtoms mystically disappear but the "problem" has just evolved.
If you had been using the washer the whole time then that blows my "theory"... glad it's been working well for you.
Posted 06 October 2005 - 01:30 PM
"Drew, why on earth are you posting on a thread that died months ago??? :?"
Cuz it was a topic linked to on the Master's newsletter from July (IIRC) and I hadn't got a chance to read it until now. It peaked my interest, plus it appeared, as I read the posts, that the problem mystically resolved itself. I do maintenance for a living and when problems mystically resolve themselves there's a reason... and sometimes that reason is that the "problem" changed, not that it went away... guess my curiosity got the better of me. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, sorry.
Posted 06 October 2005 - 04:27 PM
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