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Kenmore 417.44142400 Washer pump buzzing and stuck at rinse cycle...

Kenmore buzzing pump stuck

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#1 Rasputian

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:19 PM

I recently acquired a used Kenmore 417.44142400 washer and dryer. It worked fine for a couple of weeks (though smelly.) Cleaned it out and ran Tied anti-oxident smell removal stuff. Suddenly washer gets stuck on what appears to be the rinse part of the cycle. This will happen in all wash modes. Machine will fill, do initial agitation, will empty (I believe most of the way.) and will spin, including high speed spin, but will then get stuck, with a buzzing sound that I've isolated as coming from the water pump attached to the input hoses at the upper left of the the rear of the machine. If I advance the dial, it will move past the fill stage and go to the next agitation stage. (I've tried to re-run the washer from the inital phase several time to create a hacked washing experience, but it does seem that the water never gets fully out of the bellows area at the bottom of the machine, and though I've seen it empty water to below the inner drum level, I'm not sure if it is truly emptying. I've attached a shop vac to the drain hose to suck out the water when I've gone to work on the lower pump parts of the machine, and always end up with somewhat soapy water, despite having run several loads with nothing in the machine.)

Here is what I've done so far in terms of trouble shooting.
  • Replaced the mother control board (gonna be sending that back soon)
  • opened and cleaned the water removal pump and the hoses connected to it
  • Removed the tube from the water level control/pressure plate and blew through it to make sure the build up gunk had not clogged it.

I have a timer control that i got on ebay on the way, but what I don't understand is how the pump could bring in water in the initial fill, and then get stuck on bring in water during the rinse. Since I'm doing this repair myself, I'm just not sure how at this point to isolate the problem without getting every single related part and just swapping like a madman. My wife is getting pretty mad at me about having bought a lemon, and I frankly don't have the money do anything but get this working myself. Help!!

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:49 PM

You say it's not filling during the rinse cycle. Use your meter to see what voltage you are getting at the inlet water valve when you hear it humming.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:18 PM


... a buzzing sound that I've isolated as coming from the water pump attached to the input hoses

That's not a water pump,
it's a Water Valve... opens to let House Water pressure to enter
The Rinse cycle is cold water only...
Does cold water enter during initial Fill if set to Cold Wash ?
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:09 PM

Correct,it is the water valve that is buzzing. I just did the check to see if it would fill with cold only, and it does, so that is not the problem. And I have taken apart and cleaned the pump. The bellows does stay filled with water, even though the machine does the inital drain to below the internal drum line. Is that normal. Also, is there anyway to adjust the the water level control? I see a plastic screw type adjustment (two actually) but can not find any documentation as to how that adjusts.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:08 AM

Still looking for help here...Any ideas what to try next?





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