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SAMSUNG WF306LAW/XAA screeched and then stopped running

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#1 tgimacb

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:48 PM

...then stopped working.
completing a cycle, that is. Ok, enough with the sexist analogies...

The washer is on hold, and the stinky laundry is piling up.

Opened the pump and pulled a quarter. The impeller blades are ground down. The actuator was pulled and water and black sludge came out. Cleaned it up and reinstalled the pump assembly. Thought I had saved this on the cheap.

Water and detergent enter OK (no apparent blockages)
Cycle starts, but the drum doesn't budge as if it's too heavy, like clutch slippage (there is no clutch or transmission I see, only the stator).

Empty the drum and it spins like crazy. So I feel confident I'm not in need of a motor replacement. I'm not so confident there's not something in the muthaboard.

Thinking the worn out pump doesn't signal the control that it's OK to rinse and spin, it just pauses, although you hear the loud click of the valve at would be cycle timer intervals.

I searched for a relay to replace to no avail.
I have the pump ordered.
Will installing a new pump "tell" the washer it's OK to go thru the cycle?

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:18 PM

<<<Cycle starts, but the drum doesn't budge as if it's too heavy, like clutch slippage (there is no clutch or transmission I see, only the stator).

Empty the drum and it spins like crazy. So I feel confident I'm not in need of a motor replacement. I'm not so confident there's not something in the muthaboard.>>>

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No "3E" or "bE" error messages were ever displayed?
To eliminate:

Musty odor

L-O-N-G cycle times

Dingy/yellowing whites

Suds error message

Slow spin speeds

Intermittent water leaks (from rear of washer)

And other annoying symptoms which vary brand-to brand.

Read below:

The *correct* amount of HE (High Efficiency) detergent that should be used in any front load or agitatorless top load washer with tub sizes 3.0 cu ft and larger is as follows:

HE: (2) Tablespoons Per Wash Load

HE 2X: (1) Tablespoon

HE 3X: (1) Teaspoon

Perform a TUB CLEAN CYCLE every (4) months.

Use: "Tide Washing Machine Cleaner"

#3 tgimacb

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:41 AM

Honorable Sensei John63
No, to this grasshopper no error was revealed.

It will not grind, wheeze or anything really. It just will not proceed through any cycle while a load of any size is involved.
I had hoped swapping a relay would do the trick, however this ain't your daddy's washing machine. It's a control board, the stator, the pump, the cabinet, valves and springs.

Alas, me thinks the pump changeout will at least make this a more valuable door stop. And it probably must 'relay' information to the cycle controller it's OK to add water, spin out water, etc...

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 02:07 PM

If the tub will NOT spin but does tumble---the DRAIN MOTOR is likely the cause.

If the tub will NOT tumble or spin (with wet laundry)...

Inspect the PLUG CONNECTIONS at the motor for loose fit/corrosion.

If the wiring is okay---most likely---the MAIN BOARD has failed.
To eliminate:

Musty odor

L-O-N-G cycle times

Dingy/yellowing whites

Suds error message

Slow spin speeds

Intermittent water leaks (from rear of washer)

And other annoying symptoms which vary brand-to brand.

Read below:

The *correct* amount of HE (High Efficiency) detergent that should be used in any front load or agitatorless top load washer with tub sizes 3.0 cu ft and larger is as follows:

HE: (2) Tablespoons Per Wash Load

HE 2X: (1) Tablespoon

HE 3X: (1) Teaspoon

Perform a TUB CLEAN CYCLE every (4) months.

Use: "Tide Washing Machine Cleaner"

#5 tgimacb

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

The pump is being received Tuesday. Fortunately, the tub spins when empty (rinse&spin or spin only)
I'll install and report promptly!

On another note, I discovered the screeching sound, too. The removed back cover has nice beating marks in the center where the stator bolt/shaft protrudes. Obviously, I didn't have this bad boy leveled, and the bolt/shaft was banging against this back cover! I'll fix that!

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:37 PM

Hallelujah! Pump motor swapped out; the unit releveled and WA LA! Full cycles! Quiet, too. I left the back cover for now - me thinks the bolt/shaft was a bangin' because the unit was unleveled (nearly a friggin' inch)
Pump motor - $65 delivered two days
Labor - 4 hrs total
Glee expressed by wife - PRICELESS
There are some things that money can't buy... for everything else, there's DISCOVER :rocker:

#7 Samurai Appliance Repair Man

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:43 PM

For others coming along later, part link to the pump ==> http://www.repaircli...100054A/1534541




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