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Hey Boys! BunnyRooRoo's back:Kenmore 417.44072300 Washer death


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#1 bunnyrooroo

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:19 AM

Wee,Wee,Weeeeeeeeee

Had so much fun last time-had to come back for more.

Recap of trouble: Machine was lifeless, no lights, no power. Found obvious burn mark on contol board housing. Then noticed one shock completely unattached. Two tiny holes in the boot as well.

Ordered parts (from Repair Clinic) Today.

Any advice on doing the instal? Most curious on the removal of the door boot. \

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 10:11 AM

Hello, my furry-eyed friend. May I suggest that we investigate a possibly catastrophic cause for the shock failure as a preliminary activity to installing the replacement shock and control board? This is very easy to do: simply open the door and firmly grasp the lip of the inner stainless steel basket. Now attempt to move the basket, up and down, back and forth, side to side. Any movement-- any at all-- indicates a catastrophic failure of a piece quaintly referred to as the "drum support spider." If this has occurred, it would negate installing either of the aforementioned components as the machine would be, for all practical purposes, a "total" in the vernacular of your Ameedikan automobile insurance cartel.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 01:47 PM

Hi Bunny, welcome baaack! Check out this video on replacing the door boot:



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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:45 AM

Thank you both,
Again a lightning quick response. Appreciated.

Moostafa; checked drum, it's rotating freely as I give it a twirl,.as it alwaya has -since I have to check for socks-they can get "glued to the drum sometimes.

The machine had not made any odd sounds nor malfunctioned. We did not have it on a surge protector.
There was a tiny outage, enough to need to reset our computer's router. I barely noticed a lamp flick off, then back on. That was one day prior to our "wash day."

May or may not matter; we do very little laundry. It's just me & my husband. But I am aware of the possibility that the spider, being aluminum, being bolted to the stainless steel drum means inevitable, failure.

However I wonder if my using borax in each wash plus we already have soft water-maybe less electrolytic reaction will have occurred?
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the video seems different than mine, mine was made in 2003, it has a front access panel and much smaller opening (boot Item #:1038491, Manufacturer Number 5303937187)

Thanks again!

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:13 AM

Hi Bunny,
I think this page contains the wisdom you need to replace the boot ==> http://fixitnow.com/...epair-tub-boot/

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:33 PM

Thank you!

Looks like the right info.

By the way I did order all 3 items from Fix It Now--

I did check Sears because the needed shock was not in stock at Fixit Now, nor was there any factory arrival dates, as I'd seen on your other parts.
Searspartsdirect charges $89.99 for the control board-I paid $78.38 with you guys (another thank you!).

Next thing to finish fixing---Sears Progressive vac--fun

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

the needed shock was not in stock at Fixit Now, nor was there any factory arrival dates, .


In Stock and ready to ship here
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Posted 11 March 2012 - 08:44 PM

By the way I did order all 3 items from Fix It Now--


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Next thing to finish fixing---Sears Progressive vac--fun


Wait, I think we can help you with that here, too! I'm going to start a small appliance forum here at the Academy. But go ahead and start a topic on this in the Kitchen forum and we'll get started on it-- I'll move it later.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:15 PM

Yep that's why (&how I convinced DH we needed year membership) the apprenticeship. So I can get help & advice on vac.

Vac's going to be real easy I'm sure, .Gotta do washer first though.

Plus, now that the laundary machines are both pulled out I'm going to my bi-annual dryer maintenance. I like to take off the back panel & vac out all the lint, ream my screen chute & sheet metal exaust pipe (DIY myself, of course) Why, You ask so fatidious? Because I saw a neighbor's house catch on fire because of lint. I NEVER leave the dryer on while away from home. Love the invention someone here
made. It should be hard wired to all dryers. As well as smooth wall pipe! Why do they even sell flex pipe? Or make one version out of flimsey vinyl?
OK Rant over-----

bye for now,
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 02:30 AM

... Why, You ask so fatidious? Because I saw a neighbor's house catch on fire because of lint.
... I NEVER leave the dryer on while away from home.
... Why do they even sell flex pipe? Or make one version out of flimsey vinyl?


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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:22 PM

RegUS-
Are you the inventor? I'm not surprised.

Soooooo guess who's woke from the coma?????
She's ALIVE!!!!
Well the control board is responding normally. But I won't be running a cycle until all parts replaced & housing attached. Hoping that motor control


I replaced the broken vibration dampener (left side.) Instructions say to replace both. The other side is obscured in the front by the water pump. It would allow me to move on to the door boot seal (got link on how to already)

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:25 PM

oops..
...............motor control board is ok. Have it plugged into a fancy surge protector. Ahhhhhhh

Thank you's to all who have helped!

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:28 PM

RegUS-
Are you the inventor? I'm not surprised.

... no,
just found it listed a few days ago..
looks good
price is right
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:18 PM

opps
You must not have heard my whining "awwww do I have to?"

I am wondering if I must replace both "shocks"-as per the instructions included in the new parts.

gettin' lazy these days

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 05:45 AM

... if I must replace both "shocks"-as per the instructions included in the new parts.

if you had a car that once had a pair of new tires,
and one of them was worn out,
would you think the other one was "almost" worn out ?
or maybe it'll last another month.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:42 AM

Or maybe relate to...two headlights on a automobile, one burns out, "pay to fix both now , cus I'm here, now " Or pay for a new service call in a while to fixit then...................

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

well----made myself do it.

Just looked difficult. The left one isn't obstructed, like the one on the right is. It was tough to get out. Luckily the right one was much less resistant. And yes there was some wear I couldn't see until it was all the way out.

Great news! Been doing laundry catching up. She's back to her old self.

Have not done the boot yet, lazy me wanted to be sure board was only problem (and vibration damper) So used some electrical tape.So far it's held up through 11 loads!! I put a leak detector inside the machine, so any future leaks will not go unnoticed. I will do the boot soon, just have to get past recent Fibromyalgia flare-up. I'll need to find (I keep too much stuff) or buy copper tubing to fabricate needed clip removal "tool".

Question: the water pump. When I ran the washer the first time, the front access panel was open. The water pump seems louder than I recall. Do
they get noisy before failing?

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

I put a leak detector inside the machine, so any future leaks will not go unnoticed.


Could you talk more about that ?


The water pump seems louder than I recall. Do
they get noisy before failing?





I would be more inclined to just say they get noisy in time, and still work ok for a long time. If you plan to use the machine for a long time - it's not a bad idea to have a spare one handy.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:50 AM

Harbor Freight Tools Item # 92334 Manufacturer: Western Safety, "Water Over Flow Alarm" $9.99 -Requires one 9-volt battery. I use their rechargeable NiHM. Item # 90152 If you want to test it-be sure to wear ear protection! "105 dB high output alarm."
Got it at local branch, with 20% off coupon, during sale- final price $5.59. Frequently on sale, coupons on website, can sign up for email fliers, and mail flyers.
My washer has a perfect indentation-runs a foot or two around on the cabinet base, where water can collect just enough to trip the alarm. Me
& my Lazy gadgets!

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:33 AM

Harbor Freight Tools Item # 92334 Manufacturer: Western Safety, "Water Over Flow Alarm" $9.99

I often buy Harbor freight tools,
although, about a year ago, I needed a water alarm for my water heater / boiler
I bought this one from Menards
Zircon Electronic Water Detector $ 7.88

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