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MayTag DE8200 Dryer rebuilld & frustrations


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#1 DaveKanata

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:01 PM

Decided to service our 20 year old Dependable Maytag Dryer.
It was making noise, esp. during the winter months during startup.
Parts replaced included:
Dryer blower ==> http://www.repaircli...elNumber=DE8200
Dryer tumbler wheels ==> http://www.repaircli...elNumber=DE8200
& shafts ==> http://www.repaircli...elNumber=DE8200
Dryer belt (replaced before) ==> http://www.repaircli...elNumber=DE8200
Dryer front glides (replaced before) ==> http://www.repaircli...elNumber=DE8200
Dryer idler ==> http://www.repaircli...elNumber=DE8200
Dryer front seal, old one had been contaminated previously from the old glides cork.==> http://www.repaircli...elNumber=DE8200

Pretty straight forward, but we heard addional noise.

Removing the rear access plate seems to point to the motor, so I'm assuming bearings.

The new tumbler wheels are shedding some rubber flakes also, but their traking properly and installed fine with the new shafts. The FSP shafts had to be cleaned first with ISOProp as they are covered with a protective coating in the package.

Non of the above parts were installed with any additional lubrication also.

The only non-FSP parts installed were the tumbler roller, they were Supco's.

As a new Whirlpool / Maytag motor is almost $275 up here in Canada, does it make any sense to continue on with replacing it?

These machines have been great but I don't want to throw any more good money into a possibly lose-lose situation.

If I've missed anything about the repair outlined or you can comment about the tunbler wheels shedding rubber flakes, it would be greatly appreciated.

We really dread the quality of the newer machines out there now and Maytag, well, isn't Maytag anymore.

Cheers Dave

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:07 PM

remove the Belt from the Motor and try turning the Motor Shaft by hand.
Does it turn easily, smoothly ?
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:40 AM

When you replaced the blower wheel you may have gotten it too tight to the blower housing.
Pull the blower forward until it stops against the C-clip on the motor shaft.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:14 AM

Good point Jt, but there should be another snap ring on the shaft to do this job...
Maybe it is missing?
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:34 PM

Hi RegUS_PatOff,

I removed the belt from the rear access panel and the shaft turns smoothly with no real friction and same when powered. I have attached a sound file that highlights the shaft moving in and out by hand. It makes the same noise from the fan side or the belt side. The noise is from the belt side of the motor for sure. I would say travel is about 1/16"s of an inch front to back & vice versa.

Hi Jumptrout,

Checked the blower and it clears the housing fine, plenty of room. C clip and clamp double checked and fine.

The new tumbler wheel nearest the motor continues to lose rubber. Could the travel of the motor shaft cause the roller to "skid" on the dryer drum. The rubber comming off is in flakes or small rough pieces the size of a pen tip.

Had the drum out again. The new felt has seated nicely. The tumbler wheels and idler spin freely.

I'm at a loss, but have to assume there shouldn't be and lay in the motor shaft.

All comments welcome.

Thanks for the parts reference also......

Cheers Dave

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:14 PM

post YouTube video of noisy Dryer running ...
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:15 PM

Hi RegUS_PatOff,

As requested:



There is a small load drying in the dryer but the ticking \ scratching \ rattling noise is apparent also.

Cheers Dave

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:12 PM

Remove the coins from the baffles and re-post the sounds.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 04:48 PM

try it again with an empty load
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 06:24 PM

Remove the coins from the baffles and re-post the sounds.


I think Master jt done gave that'n the smack down.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:42 AM

Remove the coins from the baffles and re-post the sounds.


Hi Jumptrout, nothing in the baffles and they are on tight.

Cheers Dave

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:46 AM

try it again with an empty load


Hi RegUS_PatOff,

I'm posting two video's.

The first one is startup cold, no heat and the noise is still there but diminised

The second on is startup warming up. There is a thumping noise now and the smell of burning rubber after 45 seconds.

Looking at the back of the open back plate, I see that the tumbler roller is still shedding rubber.

I can tuen the drum by hand, no problem and no noise.

Totally at a loss now......





Cheers Dave

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:02 AM

Hi Jumptrout, nothing in the baffles and they are on tight.

Cheers Dave

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:09 AM

Remove the front panel and run this puppy and look for your malfunction.
Lay on the floor with a flashlight to look at the drum roller while running.
Are they dragging on the shaft or turning freeley?
Do you see the drum bouncing antwhere?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:13 AM

Remove the front panel and run this puppy and look for your malfunction.
Lay on the floor with a flashlight to look at the drum roller while running.
Are they dragging on the shaft or turning freeley?
Do you see the drum bouncing antwhere?


Hi Jumptrout,

Pulled the panel off and took some video.

Both tumbler wheels are turning fine, but I can only show the one. Both are shedding rubber with the one on motor side shedding the most.

The burning rubber smell may be from the flakes of wheel rubber now resting on the heater casing and I have to run the dryer disconnected from the vent currently.

The drum looks like it's running up and down but I'm wondering if it's out of round a bit. The reason I note this is that this dryer must have run on the glides cork base for some time before they got changed out the first time around.. The drum itself lost all the enamel at that point on the drum also. Could the drum have over heated at some point.

The clicking noise is still there but is drowned out with the cover off. It's coming from the end of the motor with the idler assy.



All help appreciated!

Cheers Dave

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:34 AM

run the Dryer with the Belt removed..
maybe in a no-heat cycle ..
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

run the Dryer with the Belt removed..
maybe in a no-heat cycle ..


Hi RegUS_PatOff,

Belt removed at idler pulley

Exhaust vent hooked back up to minimize exhaust noise in the video

Motor seems to be running strong with no noise with the belt off

I also took some video of the rear access panel removed. If you look closely you will see the rubber pieces on the base and some rubber "fuzz" on the perimeter of the wheel near the wheel meets the plastic portion of the tumbler wheel. The old wheel removed had "fuzz" on it also but wasn't shedding inside the machine.

In the idler area, it almost looks like there is some interference of the idler arm and the motor mount base.

If required, I can take this dryer apart again and post piks of all the areas where the parts were changed and pictures of the condition of the drum .

http://youtu.be/IQqPydpP1Ic

Thanks again!


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 01:46 PM

New drum rollers on new shafts should not shred.
What part of the roller is rubbing/shredding?
Also, and I stand to be corrected, this drum should mount in either direction.
Turn the drum around and try it.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:12 PM

New drum rollers on new shafts should not shred.
What part of the roller is rubbing/shredding?
Also, and I stand to be corrected, this drum should mount in either direction.
Turn the drum around and try it.


Hi Jumptrout,

The drum is symmetrical but I wanted to post some pic's first and having no luck.

My Media doesn't work nor Image as it's looking for and URL

Cheers Dave

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 04:25 PM

Pics

Pics 2

Note the new glides have some contamination / staining also from the old cork stain.

I had no luck trying to remove this with Mr. Clean ME, etc

I'm assuming if I reverse the drum, I should flip the teflon glides also

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