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#1 Pilgrim88

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 08:12 PM

Hello all… this is my first post.

OK here goes.

I purchased a Maytag French door refrigerator; model MFD2560HES with a Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8 compressor, from a local civilian on craigslist.
It needs a new compressor.

I have most of the supplies I need, i.e. R134a, nitrogen tank, acetylene b tank, silfos 15.

I am currently pursuing a set of gauges and vacuum pump on eBay.

My question is this… replacement compressors for this unit are readily available on all the repair parts sites. I would like to try to find one (cheap) on eBay but need to figure out which ones are compatible with the one I have.

What are the key specs I should look for?

Is there any kind of cross reference chart for compressor compatibility?

I know it is a somewhat difficult and technically challenging procedure, to replace a refrigerator compressor. But because of my background I believe I am up to the task.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:40 PM

... MFD2560HES
... Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8 compressor

1) MFD2560HES rated 730 BTUH 60 Hz / 125 watts
2) compressor model number is right below your posted number
What's the reason for Compressor replacement ?
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:55 PM

Hello there... thanks for responding.

Locked rotor with LRA above 20a.

I think I will be able to match those specs pretty easily with other compressor mfg.

Another question:
Can a PTCS_CR compressor harness arrangement be modified to run a RSIR compressor?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:03 AM

sorry, I don't know those answers, maybe someone else on here does ...
here's the rest of the MFD2560HES Compressor info:
BTUH................................................. 730 BTUH
Watt ................................................... 60 Hz / 125 watts
Current Lock rotor............................. 19.0 amps ± 15% (= 21.85 amps)
Current Full load............................... 1.09 amps ± 15%
Resistance Run windings.................. 3.33 ohms ± 15%
Resistance Start windings.................. 4.28 ohms ± 15%
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:53 AM

By any chance do you have the specs on a:
Frigidaire 5304475098


and could this be used as a replcement for a Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:31 AM

... Frigidaire 5304475098
... could this be used as a replcement for a Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8


1) that's a Compressor "kit" with a Panasonic Compressor (unknown part number)

2)

... compressor model number is right below your posted number


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:03 AM

I believe the compressor number for the Frigidaire 5304475098 kit is DGH66C94RAU.

Does anyone have specs for this unit and could I use it to replace my busted Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8 compressor?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

I was able to find these specs for the DGH66C94RAU, but I am not quite sure to translate them?

Any help would be appreciated

http://pdfdownloadfr...wreVtZbV1NiLqfE

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

.. I believe the compressor number for the Frigidaire 5304475098 kit is DGH66C94RAU.
... Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8 compressor?

1) that seems to be a Freezer Compressor
Evaporating temp. range: -35 ゚C to -5 ゚C (-31 ゚F to 23 ゚F)

2) that's not a Compressor model number
the model number is right below that number

why not just buy the recommended replacement Compressor ?
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:28 PM

"why not just buy the recommended replacement Compressor?"

Cost

I bought this SS French Door Maytag Ref. with the knowledge that it needed a new compressor. If I can’t fix it on the cheap my wife is going to kill me. I have all the tools and supplies necessary to do it, (I acquired them on eBay and the local Craigslist) I already had an Acetylene B Tank set up, and a Nitrogen tank with gauges. I just bought a used manifold gauge set and should be receiving my new vacuum pump shortly. And coolest of all… my new micron gauge. The way things are going I am going to have more into this project than I would have if I bought a used scratch and dent. Hell man I have an associates (asshole) degree and like my wife says my balls are bigger than my brains. OK that is way too much information… Sorry.

If I can figure out which ones I can use as a replacement I can save myself well over half the price.Well that is what I am trying to do anyway.

Could you also help me with the difference between:
RSIR, CSIR, PTCS_CR & CSR

Is the difference between these designations a matter of just the wiring harness or are there integral differences in the compressors themselves. In other words would I be able to rearrange the wiring to accommodate each type.

It looks like I may to have to bight the bullet and do what I am supposed to do, and buy the designated replacement compressor.

Which one would you suggest?

I really do thank you for taking the time to answer my amateur questions.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 01:35 PM

sorry, I'm not a Sealed System repairman
(maybe someone else on here is)
I don't know the differences between RSIR, CSIR, PTCS_CR & CSR, etc ..

Please post the Fridge Compressor model number
... and can you obtain R134 in your State with no problem ?
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 02:06 PM

I have a Maytag refrigerator model MFD256OHES with a Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8.

Yes r134a is no problem.

Thanks,
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:43 PM

... Tacumsa tp141-ar-229-b8.

that's not a Compressor model number
the model number is right below that number


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1) model number
2) bill of material
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:50 PM

Could you also help me with the difference between:
RSIR, CSIR, PTCS_CR & CSR


RSIR = Resistance Start, Induction Run

CSIR = Capacitance Start, Induction Run

CR = Capacitor Run (aka - split phase)

CSR = Capacitor Start and Run

You need to have an RSIR compressor, since your original was not equipped with a starting capacitor - the capacitor on your unit is a running capacitor, but the motor does not require it to operate, it was added to cause a slight decrease in power consumption. None of the Split Phase compressors will work for you (CR,CSR) in that application. Many things are to be considered other than compressor ratings, such as plumbing sizes arrangements and physical size and mounting of replacement.
Before you jump too deeply, check the tubing on the fridge that runs just in front of the compressor inside the drain pan - if it appears all corroded you could be in for big trouble - that is a very common failure with those and has prompted many a landfill deposit.
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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:39 PM

"Before you jump too deeply"… I think I am already there.
In for a penny in for a tongue lashing L

The tpg1370yxa has a PTCS_CR type motor, that was not one of the ones you described.

Is the PTCS_CR motor just a more efficient RSIR?

“check the tubing on the fridge that runs just in front of the compressor inside the drain pan”
I do not see any signs of corrosion. What would be the cause of this condition?

Again thanks tons for the input.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

I can see why replacing a compressor with one that had a lower BTU rating would not work but would it be OK (all else being equal) to replace it with one with a higher BTU rating, e.g. replace one with a 730 btu/hr with one that had an 1800 btu/h rating?

Wouldn't it just be able to handle a higher load, e.g. 10 children?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:21 PM

Could I replace the TPG1370YXA with an AEA3417YXA?

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:03 PM

Did a maytag mod. MZD2665hes...............takes the same compressor P/N 67003762........ Now P/N W10160407 ................ My parts place has an equal compressor listed for only half the listed retail.....So, I installed the compressor.........Most tubing fit with some new pieces made....... The start relay was D.O.A. right out of the box..........Had to install a Supco 810, ( a hard start , 3-n-1) cuz the darn compressor uses a current relay, I did not have any on hand.......Now trying to find an equal or OEM current relay has been, shall we say, enlightening...( relay p/n..213510010 on part and tech sheet )..................Equal comp. part number is FF8.5HBK = ( F)basic type.....( F)relay...... ( 8.5 ) Appx comp. displacement......(H) R-134A.....( B) low back pressure......(K) low start torque..................... But now that I have the tech sheet for that comp,........... it 's currect draw is at 4 amps running..................RSIR motor.................LBP for capillary system....................4/12/12.............P.S. As I read my post later, the smily face is suppost to be a 'B'

Edited by certified tech group 51, 12 April 2012 - 09:17 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:32 PM

Cool and interesting info... Thanks






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