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Samsung WF209ANW Will not drain nor spin cycle


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#1 jasonp

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:48 PM

Samsung WF209ANW
Will not drain nor go into spin cycle. Checked clean out no blockage. Turned pump propeller with screwdriver spins fine. There is still water left in drum should it drain out when i opened the clean out? Tried spin cycle door locks then humming noise then door unlocks few seconds. No error codes. Tomorrow i will tear into it more any advice would be helpful.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:23 PM

<<<There is still water left in drum should it drain out when i opened the clean out?>>>

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After a *drain cycle*---there should remain about 2 to 3 cups of water in the PUMP HOUSING (where the pump strainer is).

No water should be seen in the tub at the end of the cycle---however if the tub will not *spin*---there will be much more water remaining in the tub when the laundry is removed.

Samsung DRAIN MOTOR impellers---when rotated by hand should feel like...

Turns-Resistance-Turns-Resistance-Turns (a permanent magnet type motor).
If the DRAIN MOTOR spins freely---it should be replaced.

Samsung front load washers are also sensitive to over-use of detergent (or the wrong type).

Usually when the cycle has reached *8 minutes* remaining---the Display Clock will *stall* and remain at 8 minutes until either the suds becomes reduced (which is unlikely)---or the spin cycle eventually defaults and the cycle ends without having initiated the spin-dry mode.

WF209 Samsung washers also had a slight software issue---if the laundry room is cold---the oil in the VRT balance rings become slightly thicker. This thickening of the oil solution in the tub balance rings increases the length of time needed for the steel balls to spread/separate---when the tub spin speed reaches 400 RPM.
The MAIN BOARD is unaware that the thicker oil is making the balls within the balance rings---to take longer to achieve balance---and aborts the ramp up to high speed spin. After several attempts the MAIN BOARD aborts the spin cycle altogether and the machine shuts off with wet laundry in the tub.
This was corrected by changing the SPIN CYCLE PROFILE in the MAIN BOARD to allow a longer *wait period*---to permit the balls within the balance ring more time to move to it's correct position for effective anti-vibration function during spin.
Again---this ONLY occurs in *cold* environments (and in models with the original MAIN BOARDS).
To eliminate:

Musty odor

L-O-N-G cycle times

Dingy/yellowing whites

Suds error message

Slow spin speeds

Intermittent water leaks (from rear of washer)

And other annoying symptoms which vary brand-to brand.

Read below:

The *correct* amount of HE (High Efficiency) detergent that should be used in any front load or agitatorless top load washer with tub sizes 3.0 cu ft and larger is as follows:

HE: (2) Tablespoons Per Wash Load

HE 2X: (1) Tablespoon

HE 3X: (1) Teaspoon

Perform a TUB CLEAN CYCLE every (4) months.

Use: "Tide Washing Machine Cleaner"

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:44 PM

Sorry. The impeller did have resistance. The machine has worked fine for two years using same detergent ect. Where do you suggest i start? Could it still be pump?

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:52 PM

Remove the DRAIN MOTOR/PUMP ASSY hoses---verify that there's no debris in the hoses---such as a *coin* or *button* which would cause erratic/intermittent drain.

Some Samsung washers have a *white* DRAIN ELBOW that has an "L" shape---located directly under the tub assy at the center.
If your washer has this DRAIN ELBOW---this is a common location for stuck coins/buttons---that swivel open then shut.

If water remains in the tub---the washer will not enter the spin cycle until it has drained out.

If all checks are good---replace the DRAIN MOTOR.
To eliminate:

Musty odor

L-O-N-G cycle times

Dingy/yellowing whites

Suds error message

Slow spin speeds

Intermittent water leaks (from rear of washer)

And other annoying symptoms which vary brand-to brand.

Read below:

The *correct* amount of HE (High Efficiency) detergent that should be used in any front load or agitatorless top load washer with tub sizes 3.0 cu ft and larger is as follows:

HE: (2) Tablespoons Per Wash Load

HE 2X: (1) Tablespoon

HE 3X: (1) Teaspoon

Perform a TUB CLEAN CYCLE every (4) months.

Use: "Tide Washing Machine Cleaner"

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:01 PM

Mother in-law washed horse blanket and all kinds of tiny stinky hair clogged up the hoses. They did not even make it to the clean out.

Thank you for all the help!

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:07 PM

i want to know why samsung put the stupid elbow in those washers. one of the more stupid things i have seen. that and having the same model number but having multiple versions of the machine, ie pump in back or pump in front

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:23 PM

Job security. :woot:






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Troubleshooting tips for a Samsung washer that will not drain or spin

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