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Kenmore 417.44042400 doesn't spin or drain

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#1 mallochtaylor

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:32 AM

Need a manual!! I swapped out the timer on this machine about 3 years ago (courtesy of this website - thanks again!) and have had no trouble until today. Hundreds of washes later.

Suddenly it doesn't drain on any of the cycles. Decided to see if drain pump is blocked maybe? Not sure if I can access it without unstacking.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:46 AM

The drain pump is mounted to the bottom plate of the washer, in the right front corner, behind the access panel.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

Found it! Anyone have instructions on unclogging it?

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:53 PM

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:40 PM

Interesting developments. I took out the pump and found this (see picture) inside! Judging by its corroded state, it had been there a while but only just got far enough into the pump to foul it. So I put it all back together and PRESTO! It worked! But that was yesterday. Today: a different story. The machine cycles until it needs to pump, then nothing. And I have an admission to make. When I took it apart yesterday, the pump fell into the pool of water that came out when I detached it from the drain line. Could this be the new problem? Did I ruin my pump by getting it wet?

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:47 PM

More detail: if I try to push it over to another cycle and pull out the start knob, I get a very brief flash of the door light. Then nothing. I wonder if I have buggered the timer?

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 05:50 PM

check to see if you have 120v AC to the Pump when it should be running ...
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 07:48 PM

I posted this a while back but got busy, so here it is again.

Kenmore 417.44042400 made a 'crunch' noise and stopped draining. I disassembled the pump and found a hex key had jammed the impellers. Must have been in the drain line a while - it was very corroded.

Put the pump back in and started the machine - drained perfectly. Then I ran a complete new wash. This time, it got as far as the drain cycle and stopped. When I turn the dial to another cycle and pull out the knob, one of the face panel lights flickers on extremely briefly (usually the door lock light), but nothing happens.

Last time this happened I replaced the timer assembly and everything was fine. I wonder if I have somehow fried the timer again - maybe another replacement in order?

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:27 PM

check to see if you have 120v AC to the Pump when it should be running ...


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Posted 16 May 2012 - 06:21 AM

No power to pump. Timer doesn't advance. No lights when different cycles are selected.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:04 AM

... it doesn't drain on any of the cycles.

does it Fill and Agitate ?
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

It filled and agitated once, but wouldn't drain. Now doesn't do anything at all - except occasional brief flash of light when I change to a new cycle and pull out the timer knob. I'm wondering if it's worth taking a chance on a new timer.

Failing that, maybe time to throw in the towel and spring for a new washer entirely.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 10:01 PM

(4) indicator lights ...
Door Light ? (magnet on Dispenser Drawer)
Wash Light ?
Rinse Final Spin Light ?
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 12:44 PM

Tried filming it, but there's nothing to see. The best I can do is to get the door lock light to come on and stay on (when I set the timer to the heavy wash cycle) but it doesn't advance. On any other setting, I get a brief flash of the door light and nothing more.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 01:08 PM

check the Door Switch
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:04 AM

Bought a new timer. Installed just now. Works perfectly. Phew!

Although - that's two timers in two years. Anything I should be worried about?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:31 AM

Domo for the update but that's really odd. I have never replaced a timer in one of these machines. Tempted to a few times, but the problem always turned out to be something else. If wonder it it was a poor connection problem that inadvertently fixed when you replaced the timer.

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