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GE PROFILE PFS22SIBSS will has stopped cooling

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#1 Michael Roberts

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:49 PM

so here is the issue. since last summer my GE PROFILE PFS22SIBSS frig / freezer have fluctuated in temperature from 20-30 degrees. now it has stopped cooling altogether. the condenser fan was barely spinning so i ordered a condenser fan and a motherboard(MB) since those were the suspected parts. before i changed the motherboard i had noticed the overload relay clicking off and on and the compressor was extremely hot and never actually running. so i have changed the MB part# WR55X10942 that i ordered from repairclinic.com, the fan is condenser fan is now running fast enough to cool the condenser but the compressor is still hot and the overload relay keeps clicking off and on and the compressor never turns on.

can anybody help me shed some light on my issue.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:07 PM

also i was thinking the overload might be tripping because the compressor is too hot. the compressor has a thermal cut-off switch right or is that the overload relay? should i try and let the compressor cool down and then see if the new MB is working correctly.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:07 PM

... overload relay keeps clicking off and on and the compressor never turns on.

may be a bad Compressor Start Relay
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:13 PM

do you think i may have had two problems? why would the condenser fan ran slow prior to replacing the motherboard and now it runs at a decent cooling speed. what about the thermal cut off in the compressor? do think i should just wait and give the compressor time to cool down?

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

yes, two problem..
chances are the Compressor Start Relay is bad...
it tries to start, but can't
Depending on the first two characters of your serial number,
MotherBoard & Evaporator Fan (if bad)
are coivered under a service recall.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

is there a way to jumper out the overload relay to see if the compressor will run? i don't have to waste more money ordering an OL relay if i don't need it.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:21 PM

The board was not providing enough voltage to drive the fan motor. I woukd also change the fan motor also. Sometimes it takes out the boards ove time. Let the uni sit and cool down if is that hot. If i still does not start, go with reg above and check that compressor overload/relay.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:25 PM

yes, two problem..
chances are the Compressor Start Relay is bad...
it tries to start, but can't
Depending on the first two characters of your serial number,
MotherBoard & Evaporator Fan (if bad)
are coivered under a service recall.

my serial # is GL042694
i let the compressor cool down and i plugged it back in all it does it click every 5-10 sec the compressor never turns on.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:32 PM

The board was not providing enough voltage to drive the fan motor. I woukd also change the fan motor also. Sometimes it takes out the boards ove time. Let the uni sit and cool down if is that hot. If i still does not start, go with reg above and check that compressor overload/relay.

i was looking at the condenser fan motor and i have no clue on how to remove it without breaking it. i can't access the two philip head screws on the front of the plastic housing without removing the fan blade and that would require me to removed the condenser and compressor.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:40 PM

here's a test for another model
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:09 PM

I wouldnt do anything more with the fan until you get that compressor started. It should be cool enough now to start. If not pull and inspect The relay. Look for any burned areas and also shake it. If litlle pieces fall out,its bad.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:24 PM

i can't read the pin out on the compressor!!!!! i used a mirror to try and see if they are identified and they are not. it tried multiple combinations of pin readings and they all they all read about 6.0 ohms there where no shorts to ground on any of the 3 pins. what is the max range for the resistance? i did not get 2.5 ohms on any of my pins combos.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:41 PM

i pulled the compressor start relay and the overload. the start relay seems to rattle i'm not sure how the relay arms are mounted inside. are they magnetically held or is it just a spring?

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:57 PM

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ok i need to get your part nomenclature right. they say the above is a start capacitor. is that the "RUN RELAY YOU SPEAK OF"?


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They call this one the overload relay. this is the one that makes noise when i shake it. am i looking at the right thing that you guys are talking about?

i'm just a little confused because a capacitor and a relay are two different things.



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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:00 PM

You just need the relay/ol combo...don't bother with the run cap. Just use yer old one.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:03 PM

... PFS22SIBSS

maybe
PFS22SISBSS ?

6 OHMs is OK
if one pair reads 6 OHMs
and if another pair = 6 OHMs
then the last pair should read 12 OHMs
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:04 PM

here's a test for another model
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i have no way of making a test lead for this plug because i can't read the pin out correctly. i have tried to get a pic but i can't get a clear pic off my phone.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:07 PM

... i can't read the pin out correctly.

The other option is to replace the Start Relay I posted.

... my serial # is GL ...

serial number is included in the service recall
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:45 PM

The other option is to replace the Start Relay I posted.


serial number is included in the service recall

that's not what GE customer service said when i called to see if they would send me a free mother board. i mentioned the recall and the CS person said that my GE Profile was not on a recall even thou she never asked for my serial number!!!!!!!
do you think i can get them to reimburse me for the motherboard i replaced?

ok so i just order the overload relay. not the start capacitor. i'm gonna send back the condenser fan motor so i can save 70 bucks. once i changed the MB the fan ran OK.
THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP SO FAR. i'm so glad i have been trained on how to read a multi meter this would have cost me 3x as much if i had called a tech out to troubleshoot.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:05 PM

.. the CS person said that my GE Profile was not on a recall

model PFS22
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