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[dannygr]

Working on an MVWC6ESWW1, I notice the fairly reliable 3 wire water level switch has been replaced by a "sensor" with 14 wires. The diagram shows only a box, and these things seem really touchy.
They also come with a new style timer. No going back, apparently.

Does anyone have any information on troubleshooting these things?

Daniel

[Scottthewolf]

What is the problem with the machine?

[Samurai Appliance Repair Man]

If it fills a little and then starts draining or start agitating and filling at the same time, then replace the ATC switch. Expensive switch but such a common problem that I keep one in the Guru Mobile ==> http://www.repaircli...mber=MVWC6ESWW1

[dannygr]

Problem call is no fill. After replacement, it worked for a day, then would not agitate after filling, eventually would not fill, either. They showed me low suds detergent they use.

Replaced a second time. In testing, I notice it will stop filling and stop agitating- until the timer knob is turned a full cycle- if you disturb it in any way, like taking off hose to pressure test, or sometimes even opening the lid.

This may be a customer education issue, as this bulletin hopefully describes:
fill sensor.pdf

But I notice with the new timer there is no going back. This is one more straw in the load that leads to the following rant:

!!! warning---extended whining below---!!!

"Why do they screw things up that worked so well, and were simple to fix when they broke? What happened to the no frills, no computer top loader that was good for 25 years?

Can we strap on our tool belts and demand manufacturers at least have one solid model of washer, dryer, stove and fridge from the 1980's? There is nothing I can recommend today when asked for something as reliable as Mom had when they were growing up. We all know it, just like we all knew the housing crisis was doomed to break.

New appliances give me all the work I could ever do, but at what cost to the overall economy?

Is there a venture capitalist out there who would make a reliable, inexpensive washer/fridge, etc. with mechanical controls? It has been done before..."

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[Scottthewolf]

Problem call is no fill. After replacement, it worked for a day, then would not agitate after filling, eventually would not fill, either. They showed me low suds detergent they use.

Replaced a second time. In testing, I notice it will stop filling and stop agitating- until the timer knob is turned a full cycle- if you disturb it in any way, like taking off hose to pressure test, or sometimes even opening the lid.

This may be a customer education issue, as this bulletin hopefully describes:
fill sensor.pdf

But I notice with the new timer there is no going back. This is one more straw in the load that leads to the following rant:

!!! warning---extended whining below---!!!

"Why do they screw things up that worked so well, and were simple to fix when they broke? What happened to the no frills, no computer top loader that was good for 25 years?

Can we strap on our tool belts and demand manufacturers at least have one solid model of washer, dryer, stove and fridge from the 1980's? There is nothing I can recommend today when asked for something as reliable as Mom had when they were growing up. We all know it, just like we all knew the housing crisis was doomed to break.

New appliances give me all the work I could ever do, but at what cost to the overall economy?

Is there a venture capitalist out there who would make a reliable, inexpensive washer/fridge, etc. with mechanical controls? It has been done before..."

Blame the government, THE EPA and Energy Star for giving manufacturers the mandates that appliances can only use a certain amount of energy and water.

[Cactus Bob]

buy used !!!!!

I just sold a 1968 kenmore 600 washer and dryer pair for $850.00 , it was like new , i went over it , new belts , and a water pump , with one year parts , 90 days labor

all my older units sell fast , people are fed up and want something good for a change

all of these used sales come with the same story
"we have owned 1-2-3 or more front loaders in the last 5 years and will never own another"

fine with me

[dannygr]

True that is, but hard to find they are. Like old growth timber.

[RegUS_PatOff]

the Whirlpool direct drive top loaders aren't made anymore, but new ones are still for sale out there
$ 249 on sale within the last year, but now about $ 400