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Frigidaire front load washer FTF2140ES1 won't spin

Frigidaire front load washer no spin

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#1 MKeating42

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

I'm beginning to truly hate this washer.
 
I happened to be ten feet away when the washer quit working. The spin cycle had just started. Drain kicked on, drum started spinning, then the washer started "walking" because of an imbalanced, heavy load. Before I could reach it, it just quit. No lights, no beeps, no error codes. Checked to make sure it was still on the stand, then put it in diagnostic mode to spin it out. I had the door lock problem some time ago so I knew how to go about doing that (thanks guys!). 
 
The drain came on but after a few seconds it stopped. The drum never spun. Hoping that it was just a clogged pump/drain, I took it apart, cleaned it out. Didn't find anything. Reassembled and tried the test again. This time I paid a little closer attention, and it seems like the washer shut down when the drum tried to start. It also started flashing error E5E - communication error. 
 
The service manual says E5E is a communication error, and refers to Test 13: "Communication problem. Check the wiring between the control board and the speed control board." (already sounds expensive) 
"Wiring bad: correct wiring problem. Wiring good: Replace the control board. If the problem is not corrected, replace the speed control board." (sounding more expensive...)
 
I see a similar problem with another Frigidaire model in this post.
 
If the washer doesn't spin in diagnostic mode, that points to the control board instead of the latch, correct? Because diag mode overrides the door lockout? 
 
I guess I'm looking for confirmation that it's the control board before I spring for a new one.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:51 AM

depending on the severity, the imbalance / walking (which may be a major mechanical problem)

may have caused the Connectors to come loose on the Motor Controller or on the Motor

Will it still Wash / Agitate / Tumble ?


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:45 AM

Check the speed control board .........There is a wire harness , 5  wires, that I have found after a wild spin, the harness becomes slightly disconnected...............Still in place but, unplugged..........Then check the wire terminal connection on the motor, brown wire........did it get pulled loose??????....the wire harness is zip tied to the floor but not enough movement is allowed..............Check the lock assy, wild spinning  has been known the hit the lock assy.............Switch all the parts but I think it is a pulled wire or connection..................



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:15 PM

i second the loose wires at motor control, i have seen this problem before and it is the same as u describe, drian pump runs for 2 seconds then nothing, wait a minute and it repeats



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:26 PM

Check the lock assy, wild spinning  has been known the hit the lock assy.............Switch all the parts but I think it is a pulled wire or connection..................


Lock test works. Door also locks when I run the drain/spin test (but no spin).
 
 

Check the speed control board .........There is a wire harness , 5  wires, that I have found after a wild spin, the harness becomes slightly disconnected...............Still in place but, unplugged..........Then check the wire terminal connection on the motor, brown wire........did it get pulled loose??????....the wire harness is zip tied to the floor but not enough movement is allowed..............

depending on the severity, the imbalance / walking (which may be a major mechanical problem)
may have caused the Connectors to come loose on the Motor Controller or on the Motor
Will it still Wash / Agitate / Tumble ?


When I run the fill/tumble test, the washer fills but no agitation whatsoever.  
 
Not sure what the speed control board looks like. I'll dig around here/RepairClinic for an image.

I don't suppose there's an easy way to get to the wiring harness on the motor? It's at the back of the cabinet, and I can't eyeball the harness from the service panel.

Edited by MKeating42, 09 January 2013 - 06:28 PM.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:31 PM

Not sure what the speed control board looks like. I'll dig around here/RepairClinic for an image.


The Speed Control Board = Motor Control Board?
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:38 PM

The Speed Control Board = Motor Control Board?

yes

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

 Drain kicked on, drum started spinning, then the washer started "walking" because of an imbalanced, heavy load. 

 

 

Have you checked the drum bearings in accordance with the patented Samurai Technique™? 

 



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 06:53 PM

Well. I think I've found the problem:

 

Frigidaire_MC_harness_zpsc5d849ec.jpg

 

Now, I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure those wires weren't chewed up like that when I bought the thing. So yes, "loose wires" for an extreme definition of "loose."

 

The good news: new harness much (MUCH!) less expensive than motor control board.

The bad news: It's backordered at Repair Clinic - out of stock for 3-5 weeks.

 

Thanks for the help guys.

 

 

Have you checked the drum bearings in accordance with the patented Samurai Technique™? 

 

 

 

 

I had not, but oddly enough a 2" wolf spider decided to amble across my keyboard while I was watching the vid. I told him to skedaddle unless he was going to pay my subscription.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

new harness much (MUCH!) less expensive than motor control board.

The bad news: It's backordered at Repair Clinic - out of stock for 3-5 weeks.

this one ?  $59

http://www.repaircli...R=154&N=1156892


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:06 PM

this one ?  $59
http://www.repaircli...R=154&N=1156892

 

When I search by model# RC gives me this one (Item # 1163239).
 
Wiring-harness-motor-control-134547600-0
 
But they're both out of stock.



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:15 PM

Would it be prudent to solder the wires back together? Or am I just asking for more trouble?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:48 PM

When I search by model# RC gives me this one (Item # 1163239).
 
Wiring-harness-motor-control-134547600-0
 
 

that's not the one ...

none of the (3) listed at RepairClinic are the one you need

(wrong wire colors)

You need the one shown on the wiring diagram on the left of the Motor Controller

that connects to the Main Controller

(it has your wire colors)

 

134543000 is the only one on Frigidaires parts list that isn't shown ...

which is probably the one you need


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

that's not the one ...
none of the (3) listed at RepairClinic are the one you need
(wrong wire colors)
You need the one shown on the wiring diagram on the left of the Motor Controller
that connects to the Main Controller
(it has your wire colors)
 
134543000 is the only one on Frigidaires parts list that isn't shown ...
which is probably the one you need


Wow. that's weird. I couldn't see the part of your message with the part number in it. And you're right - I traced the wires back to the main control board:
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

may be easier (and cheaper) to just splice the wires back together ...

(there may still be something wrong with the balancing / walking problem)


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

Woohoo! splice the wires back together, tested for continuity, plugged it back in and it works!

Thanks again for all the help.

Edited by MKeating42, 09 January 2013 - 11:01 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:35 AM

Awesome!  Great job tracking down the problem and fixing it!   :rocker:







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