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#1 Scottthewolf

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:16 PM

Ok, I have had it with dishwashers installed so far away from the sink and through solid cabinets that it's impossible to get the drain and fill hoses out and back in the tiny holes in the kitchen cabinets.  It's as if the contractor built the kitchen cabinets around the dishwasher. 

 

I had one today where it was impossible to pass the drain hose through the tiny holes in the solid cabinets. I've tried taping hard sticks to the drain hose and even zip tying hard sticks to the drain hose and still the hose won't stay stiff enough to pass through the holes. 

 

ANY ideas aside from telling the customer to cut out one side wall of the kitchen cabinets?

 

Can somebody tell these knuckleheads that dishwashers NEED to be installed as close to the kitchen sink as possible  so you don't need to join 2 drain hoses together and the dishwasher needs to be installed SQUARELY with the cabinets and not at an angle or corner?


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:10 AM

I'm not sure if I understand ...

How about inserting a length of straight or curved copper tubing (of appropriate diameter to just barely fit) to the inside of the drain hose

to fish it through the small Cabinet hole ?


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:14 AM

I'm not sure if I understand ...

How about inserting a length of straight or curved copper tubing (of appropriate diameter to just barely fit) to the inside of the drain hose

to fish it through the small Cabinet hole ?

tried that, it didn't work


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:24 AM

I carry a spool of para-cord....................When I disconnect any lines , I attach a length of the cord to the  1) drain line , 1) supply line and 1) to the power cord if one is used..........So when the unit is pulled it will pull a length of 'retrieval line'  attached to the lines behind it...............A lot of manufactured homes around here , angled kitchens where the lines are stretched to max plus thru two walls....................... For small holes that need to be enlarged, I carry a drywall saw, I think it is called a 'Fat Max'  by Stanly ....nice sharp teeth.......Just tell the customer up front and make the cut look good.........( who is going to see it any way, hidden behind all the bottles of chemicals and junk ) ..........



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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:07 PM

And after a few years when those chemical fumes work on the plastic hosejoint now buried in behind the cabinets and it springs a leak (inside the cabinetry) .......


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:24 PM

Also a favorite nesting place for mice.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:49 AM

dunno what you are talking about

 

i carry a 2 inch hole saw , there is no discussions with the customer

 

they call , i install , holes where required

 

must be an american thing ??

 

i have only had a couple of installs i have declined till they did the hole and these were because the power or water was directly where

the hole needed to be drilled through and i wasnt taking the risk to drill through power or water


Edited by J5, 18 January 2013 - 01:51 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:43 AM

<<<i carry a 2 inch hole saw , there is no discussions with the customer

 

they call , i install , holes where required>>>

 

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Edited by john63, 18 January 2013 - 02:45 AM.

To eliminate:

Musty odor

L-O-N-G cycle times

Dingy/yellowing whites

Suds error message

Slow spin speeds

Intermittent water leaks (from rear of washer)

And other annoying symptoms which vary brand-to brand.

Read below:

The *correct* amount of HE (High Efficiency) detergent that should be used in any front load or agitatorless top load washer with tub sizes 3.0 cu ft and larger is as follows:

HE: (2) Tablespoons Per Wash Load

HE 2X: (1) Tablespoon

HE 3X: (1) Teaspoon

Perform a TUB CLEAN CYCLE every (4) months.

Use: "Tide Washing Machine Cleaner"

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

Some customers do not like extra hole added to the cabinets........looks like Swiss cheese..............I will just enlarge the existing hole......................In the tool box , I also carry a hole saws 1 1/2 " up to 4 1/4".................Never know when a dryer vent needs to be installed.......



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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:57 AM

<<<I will just enlarge the existing hole>>>

 

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In most cases---when installing a "tall tub" dishwasher---the original hole(s) cannot be used.

 

Two new holes are needed at the base of the cabinet (very low).

 

I save those reversible metal sheets used on old dishwashers (each side has a different color---white--black--bisque).

 

Cut a small section of the sheet metal---use silicone adhesive and 4 small screws to cover the original cabinet holes.


To eliminate:

Musty odor

L-O-N-G cycle times

Dingy/yellowing whites

Suds error message

Slow spin speeds

Intermittent water leaks (from rear of washer)

And other annoying symptoms which vary brand-to brand.

Read below:

The *correct* amount of HE (High Efficiency) detergent that should be used in any front load or agitatorless top load washer with tub sizes 3.0 cu ft and larger is as follows:

HE: (2) Tablespoons Per Wash Load

HE 2X: (1) Tablespoon

HE 3X: (1) Teaspoon

Perform a TUB CLEAN CYCLE every (4) months.

Use: "Tide Washing Machine Cleaner"

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:47 PM

Just as much fun as  : hooked to cold water line      25 ft. of cheap drain hose that collapses in the middle                 10 ft. of 1/4 inch soft copper feeding water to unit             new tile floor installed in front of unit                        new "soft" lino in kitchen



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:25 PM

I carry a spool of para-cord

 

did you mean Primer cord?

 

http://encyclopedia2...com/Primer cord


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:16 PM

Got another one for ya,

They drilled the hole thru the floor all the way on the left side of the dishwasher for the water line and because it's too close to the frame of the dishwasher they took the water valve off its mounting bracket laid the water valve on the floor and wrapped the water line around on the outside of the frame of the dishwasher and it got in the way of the door spring and the hinge, causing the door to come off it's hinge totally.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:58 PM

pictures ?
camera phone ?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:04 PM

pictures ?
camera phone ?

No pictures, I wanted to get the hell out of there as fast as I could because there was mice feeces everywhere. I flagged it for us never to back there again.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

more reasons for camera phone ..


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