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Stilltrying3

Maytag SE 1000 will not agitate

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OK you can remove the brake package with a flathead and a hammer, The tub nut, will come off but if it had a lot of crap built up in the threads over the years, it'll take a while to get it off, wd40 or anyother penetrating spray lube just let it soak in and keep spraying untill, you get the nut to bust loose. I forget sometimes to this day but they are backwards threads so clockwise to loosen. You're right I though you were talking about the mounting stem. I don't remeber, but I think the new mount stem kit comes with a new clamp nut, so if you could get a new nut in the new mount stem kit that you will need, you can just cut it off with a dremmel, or a chisel.

 

http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Drive-Shaft/62097820/1480336?modelNumber=SE1000

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Hi CS...

This is the inner tub clamp nut ... the manual I have for the SE1000 says there is not a set screw

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Before you keep beating on it look for a set screw, I've never seen a Dependable Care Maytag without a setscrew on the mounting stem. The newer mounting stem kits use a torq/star, the older ones used an allen wrench.

If you haven't got the tub out yet and are trying to remove the tub clamp nut that doesn't have a set screw and you can break it easily with a cold chisel, a new tub clamp nut will come with the new mounting stem/seal kit.

And as ComStock and the instructions say, it's Left hand threads, Clockwise to remove.

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Hi Guys,

 

New Development after:

** Lots of beating

** WD 40

** Cider Vinegar

** 24 hours of above in various amounts of time

 

--> Now - the clamp nut is turning, but not off the upper ??? pipe ???

that it is screwed to but 

--> It is rising above the Clamping Nut Washer

 

Clamping Nut Washer - Stainless
PartSelect Number PS2018566
 
--> so it seems that it is also unscrewing from the 
Mounting Stem  
Part Number: PS2351899
below the inner tub.
 
FWIW - I can't find a set screw anywhere
Not sure if I have a Dependable Care Maytag
I bought the machine in 1988 = before Dependable Care ?
 
Thanks for all your help, I just ordered a round for you guys from the bartender.
... can't find the contribute link, please help
 
ST3
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Please see attached pics-

Is there a mounting screw ??

 

TIA 
ST3

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You need to stop and break the tub nut off with a cold chisel.

 

If you keep doing what you're doing you're going to mess up the threads on the transmission.

 

The set screw is in the mounting stem part, you will only see it once you get the spin basket out.

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Willie -

 

Error duly noted, you are my hero.

 

Your wisdom and experience is what

makes good at what you do.

 

I will buy a cold chisel today and to as you say.

 

Many thanks,

 

ST3

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Hi Guys, 

 

Willie was correct twice:

 

#1 I stripped 20-30% of the threads on the tranny post thingy

by trying to get the clamp nut off.

 

the clamp nut was turning, but not off the upper ??? pipe ???

that it is screwed to ---> Result, I had to grind off the nut

 

#2 This was also true:

Most likely problem is a slow upper agitate shaft seal leak and upper agitate shaft is frozen in upper transmission housing

 

So now the whole thing is apart, 2 tubs, tranny, etc

I will do an inventory and see what to order and ask you guys know / make suggestions

Probably:

** Two fan belts

** Upper clamp nut <it was was ground off)

** MAybe the Mounting Stem / Tub seal kit

** Tranny gasket

** Agitator Drive Shaft Seal

** more to follow

 

Many thanks for all your help

I'll also post helps and tips

 

Regards,

 

ST3

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You will definitely need the mounting stem/tub seal kit, (it contains a new agitator shaft seal permanently built into the mounting stem, change of sealing method - eliminated the spring/washer/clip/bell seal and replaced with double lip seal.  Kit also contains the new upper tub clamp nut).

 

New belts would be a good idea.  If you're going to separate the transmission to try and clean up the upper housing bushings, (I don't believe a new upper housing is available for the old style transmission), and maybe replace the agitator shaft, (I think you can still get a new agitator shaft), you will definitely need a new cover gasket but could most likely get away with blue RTV auto gasket silicone.

 

Will most likely need to change the oil in the transmission also but possibly not, the bushings and agitator shaft seizure could be just from worn out and gummed up bushings and not actually getting water into the transmission.

 

You could probably upgrade with a complete new Orbital transmission, (it would be a couple hundred dollars for a complete new transmission but would be worth putting into and rebuilding this machine even at $200-$300 in parts).   This machine if rebuilt will probably out last anything made now days.

 

The only bad point is this is one of the electronic LED control models, if I'm not mistaken, and if the control goes out I don't believe those are available anymore.  There are re-builders that maybe able to recondition the control if it fails.

 

EDITED TO ADD: Looks the touchpad and main controller boards are still available

Edited by Budget Appliance Repair

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Hi Guys,

 

Thanks much - Willie !

 

First order of business.

I am thinking I need to sand the rust in the outer tub

and paint some kind of waterproof rust sealer paint

to prevent further rust damage.

 

Comments and suggestions on the type of paint to use

will be much appreciated.

 

You guys are GREAT !

 

ST3

 

 

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Hi Guys,

 

My handyman neighbor has suggested slow drying two part epoxy paint for the tub rust issue.

I would think I would need to paint it first with rust ?oxidizer paint first to seal the rust

 

Comments appreciated

 

You guys are Life savers (+ $$$) 

 

ST3

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Just sand it a little to get the surface rust off, then use some black appliance paint to touch it up, they all rust at some point. Just touch it up and seal it with the new paint, and get her back to washing with the parts list willie gave you. I'd go with a new tranny also, as it will still outlast anything built today.

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Is appliance paint waterproof ?

i.e. won't the outer tub be full of water during the wash cycle ?

 

Thanks,

 

ST3

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 Yes the outer tub will be full of water during the wash. :rolleyes:  Not trying to be rude, but the purpose for sanding the rust out and repainting it is to keep the rust from spreading, at some point the outer tub will have rust in it again. I have no clue if rustolem appliance epoxy is water proof but thats what I use for all my touch ups.

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Hi Guys,

 

Here is my plan:

 

 

Lithium Grease

** Spindle shaft  Part NumberPS2020073

at the top where it connects inside the Plastic Agitator 

Part Number: PS58284

** Small Amount on the bottom of the Mounting Seal

Part NumberPS2351899

** Spindle Shaft Part NumberPS2018692

at the bottom where it connects with

the Transmission Drive Pulley  Part Number: PS2347248

** Brake Rotor Bearing Part Number: PS2016361

 

Sand Smooth, but not too much:

** Agitator Shaft Part Number: PS2020073

upper part where it had frozen/seized tight

not allowing the Agitator to spin

** Upper Tranny Post that the

Tub Bearing sleeve Part Number: PS2347235

slides over 

 

New / Replaced Parts:

 

12 Mt Stem Kit - Top
  8 Tub Bear Kit -  Bottom
29 Tranny Oil
  7 Tranny Gasket
16 Bottom Screw
12 Drive Belt
13 Pump Belt
11 Tranny Gear Pin
3 Agitator Shaft "O" ring 
 
Comments Appreciated.
 
Best to All,
 
ST3
 

 

 

 

 

thanks,

 

ST3

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The upper tub bearing is a bushing set up, (pre-lubed nothing more needed).

 

The lower spin bearing above the brake pak should be a sealed bearing and not need any other lube either.

 

The thrust bearing above the transmission pulley needs some regular auto heavy duty wheel bearing grease.

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Hi Guys - 

 

Almost five months later  - my Maytag is running strong  - many thanks to all for your help.  

For a couple hundred in parts, I was saved from spending about $ 1,500 on a new stacker.

I should have bought a new "Upper Outer Tub Cover Clamp" ... it leaked a little water for about a month

but the old clamp finally "seated" itself.

 

One last issue:

 

I had to take the tranny apart to fix the agitator shaft and bought new tranny oil.

After reassembling the whole deal -

 a very small amount of oil seeps out of the tranny gasket (bought a new one)during the spin cycle

and spins out to the frame walls of the washer - and onto the rubber hoses (original hoses) on the right side of the machine:

 

#1 How do you know how tight to tighten the bolts that hold the tranny together ?

#2 Will the oil rot the rubber hoses ? Again, this is a 25 year old machine

 

Thanks again to all - 

 

Still Trying (to save a buck)

 

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