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Dishwasher Electrolux/Frigidaire FDBB286SFC1 Fault Code PF


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#1 DeathStalker

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:48 AM

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I need to fix a dishwasher, Frigidaire FDBB286SFC1, that has a fault code PF. My renter says it turns on for 10-15 minutes and then quits. I have looked it up on the internet and looked at the dishwasher. Lying on the floor in front of it, I saw two red wires with female connectors on them that were burnt looking. Looking from the front they were on the left center about in the middle of the dishwasher and connected to something that was going up into the body. I didn't pull the dishwasher out as the renters have small children and I didn't have the part. Without a diagram I don't know what the part is. Have I given enough of a description for one of ye experts to know? I also checked in the electrical box where the power from the house connects to the dishwasher and there were no loose connections there. What I read on the internet (i think it came for the old site actually lol) said to look first for tripped breaker and then burnt wirenuts or wires. Those two red wires didn't look like they went to the control board though.

 

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:14 AM

... FDBB286SFC1

maybe
FDBB2865FC1

5995487567.pdf

154493101en.pdf


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:19 AM

Too funny, you are correct. I can't read my own writing. It came up in google with the F there lol.

 

Anyway, thanks for the diagrams. As near as I can tell, the only two things that would get power at the bottom would be the motor and the heater correct? Judging from the diagram the motor is on the side where the wires are burnt.

 

Does it harm a dishwasher to lay it on it's side or back? Looks like I need to take it out of the hole, (disconnect it of course) and test the burnt part and replace it.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:50 PM

Well, since I can't get an answer I'll just have to tip the bitch up tomorrow and hope for the best.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:40 PM

Does it harm a dishwasher to lay it on it's side or back? 

 

It usually doesn't harm the dishwasher but may harm the floor, which is a bigger concern if precautions aren't taken.  In accordance with the 10th Law of the Prophecy: Never move an appliance to make a repair unless you absolutely have to.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:54 PM

How do you reach in under the bottom and get the part out with a three inch clearance space? I REALLY don't want to pull that puppy out.........

 

As for the 10th law of prophecy? I proved it IT with that last Dryer/washer combo lol. Not ONLY did I have the same impossible connection you reference in your link (thanks by the way, I had missed that before, good stuff there Maynard), but I manhandled that 6 million pound behemoth up an impossible flight of stairs AND screwed up an oak step tread. Thank Lord Buddha that while I am a lowly apliance worm of an apprectice, I AM the wood God and healed the stairs.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:57 PM

Can you post a photo of the burnt wires or a markup of their location on a parts diagram?



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:11 PM

I looked again at the diagram and I really can't mark one and I don't have a photo and don't know how to post one if I did (no photo bucket). yo would think that as much as I know about computers I would not have let the photo posting part slip but I have. I didn't do it so I never kept up with it. What's even worse is I THINK I saw a thread here that tells us how to post photos from our iPhones that I meant to read......

 

I ca't thinmof how to describe it any better than I did in the first post. Does the heater have two red wires going to it? I think that was the puzzling thing for me, there were two RED wires in an area less than 1 1/2 inches in diameter (yes I know the definition of diameter, radius and circumference Mr. GA Tech lol). Why would anything have two hot wires going up to it. When I looked at the diagram Reg sent me, I saw a motor and the heating element as the only things that would need power and the heater looked as though it was on the right side.

 

I'll go tomorrow and see if I can't get a picture. Sorry I can't describe it well enough, I'm usually pretty articulate.

 

Oh and as always, thanks for the help.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:25 PM

You can attach photos in a post if you click the "more reply options" when composing your post.  

 

You can make a photo album in the Gallery section of this site:

 

 

You can also upload from your iphone or Android smart phone using PhotoPhucket or some such online image hosting service:

 

 

Do you have the tech sheet for this dishwasher?



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:38 PM

Yes on the tech sheet. Sorry for the delay, i found the video you just linked above and was watching it lol. I will also check out the gallery thing above. I was also looking to see if the techline was open tomorrow.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:40 PM

If it's easier for you, you can fax me the tech sheet at 866-315-4504.



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:46 PM

I'm sorry. I may be using the wrong term out of ignorance. I have the two files Reg has linked here in his first post.

 

5995487567.pdf

 

154493101en.pdf

 

EDIT: Oh and dude, I NEVER explored the gallery option. How easy to use. Most sites won't give that option. How cool. You can bet I'll be wearing it out in future posts about problems. A picture DOES say 1000 words.


Edited by DeathStalker, 07 April 2013 - 09:54 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:44 AM

The part you are seeing with the two red wires burnt and being a Frigidaire, I can almost guarantee you it is the hi-limit safety t-stat for the heater:

http://www.repaircli...154290204/12758

Seems to be a common failing part in the Frigidaire dishwashers, it shouldn't cause the PF error though. It does cause the heater to not work so the water temp won't raise and if you have any of the hi heat or sani cycles selected it will run forever trying to heat the water to the required temp.

I'm sure you know this already, Make sure to replace the wires cutting them back an inch of two from the burnt area and extending them with new wire and connectors along with replacing the hi-limit safety t-stat. If the wiring and connectors aren't replaced along with the safety t-stat you will be back doing this again shortly.

Edited by Samurai Appliance Repair Man, 11 April 2013 - 07:20 AM.
Added part link to hi-limit thermostat

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:14 AM

Thank you Budget. I'm just about to head over there, I couldn't get them to call me back to head there yesterday. Doing for renters is a little different than doing for customers I suppose, at least customers are THERE when they cal you to come out.......



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 06:30 AM

Another thing I forgot to mention.   Take the front door panel off, (only two screws, one on each side), and you will have lots more room to work under unit.

 

A short stubby Phillips screwdriver to remove the retainer that holds the hi-limit safety t-stat in place.  You should be able to reach it without pulling the dishwasher out.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:16 PM

Another thing I forgot to mention.   Take the front door panel off, (only two screws, one on each side), and you will have lots more room to work under unit.

 

A short stubby Phillips screwdriver to remove the retainer that holds the hi-limit safety t-stat in place.  You should be able to reach it without pulling the dishwasher out.

 

Well NOW you tell me lol. I got it done without pulling it out although I cut and scraped the crap out of my arm doing it. It was the high limit T-stat just like you said. Thanks bro.

 

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