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No "tickee", no "washee" - Kenmore Built Whirlpool's timer will not advance; is it past it's time?


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#1 Robin the Hood

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:40 PM

Greetings, oh-long-lost-bretheren o'mine!

 

Model: 110.28894791

 

Serial: CJ0701440

 

So - up until 2 days ago, machine worked fine (yes - a little beat up when we bought it used 3 years ago, but for $150? No contest!)

 

Now, will fill just fine...but won't move on after that.

 

No sounds whatsoever coming from the timer...am used to that quiet ticking/ratcheting sound.

 

Hubby is willing to attempt a repair, but he's a 2-beer only operator. Anything beyond that, and I'll be getting a "new" used machine.

 

I know that you all are wisest of the wise....what need this lowly (and no longer Whirlpool employed) appliantologist do? I appeal to the greatest masters of the art!

 

Sincerely,

 

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Edited by Robin the Hood, 30 May 2013 - 07:41 PM.

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#2 KurtiusInterupptus

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:48 PM

Hey Robin...longtime no see...I ass-u-me you have checked the lid switch...some of these won't agitate or spin with lid open.
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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:59 PM

Greetings, Kurtius! Been a long time away from Whirlpool....but his particular machine will agitate just fine with the lid up. It won't spin (safety precaution), but it will agitate.


Edited by Robin the Hood, 30 May 2013 - 08:02 PM.

"If you want your tree to produce plenty o' fruit, you've got to cut it back from time to time. Same thing with your neural cells. Some people might call it brain damage. I call it prunin'".

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:09 PM

Just for kicks, did you check the lid switch anyways? Your going to be stripping the case so you might as well jump it out. You know the routine. Pop the two pieces of the side trim, remove phillips screws, flip console back, pop the two case clips. yada yada. Check and see if the timer is getting voltage, check and see if its sending that voltage appropriately. etc and so forth. 



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:15 PM

Good idea! Will give it a try and get back, RussTech!
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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:30 PM

  If you advance the timer manually, will it drain/spin?

 

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:06 PM

I can't find the wiring diagram for that model,

unless you have one you could scan & upload


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Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:56 PM

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 10:04 PM

just a guess, check connections at the Washer Motor


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Posted 30 May 2013 - 10:13 PM

  That's why I suggest checking drain/spin mode. Particularly drain if you can find it manually advancing the timer because drain mode bypasses both the motor switch and speed select switch. If motor won't work in drain, you likely have a faulty neutral connection, possibly at the motor overload switch. This would prevent the timer from advancing (which you say it isn't) as well as no motor function. Unplug washer and checking continuity from plug neutral (wide blade) to motor white/black wire would confirm faulty neutral through motor.

 

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:53 AM

Old trick for old timers.  Advance to wash or spin cycle as Bro fairbank suggests.  Pull knob.  If nothing happens put slight upward pressure on timer shaft and see if motor starts.  If it does, unplug and open console.  Try to wedge a small piece of 2x4 under timer housing to keep pressure on timer shaft and use that timer for all it's worth.  Also check contacts at the pressure switch.  Symptoms can vary from no fill to no spin or agitate.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 10:53 AM

  Pressure switch has no effect on drain/spin mode other than spray function, only fill and agitate.

 

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:59 PM

LOL...nothing quite so complicated, after all!! Hubby never did level the damn thing properly...after removing the trim and swinging the control panel up, he noticed that a couple of the circuit boards weren't seated properly. Snapped them back in, because he was going to haul it outside (more work space) ...decided to plug it in first - just for GP - Viola!!! We now have a working machine!!

You can bet it's leveled in NOW...

Edited by Robin the Hood, 31 May 2013 - 02:12 PM.

"If you want your tree to produce plenty o' fruit, you've got to cut it back from time to time. Same thing with your neural cells. Some people might call it brain damage. I call it prunin'".

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:04 PM

Haha...nice work!
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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:15 PM

Still...thanks to ALL of you for jumping right in on this! I've missed you all! Since WP "pulled the plug" on the West Coast CXC, finished my Associates Degree and now work for THE Major Global Wholesale Warehouse's Website. Guess who their "go to" is for appliances?? LOL...
"If you want your tree to produce plenty o' fruit, you've got to cut it back from time to time. Same thing with your neural cells. Some people might call it brain damage. I call it prunin'".

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

And the video for how to take the cabinet apart was a BIG help! Who'd-a-thunk it was just that simple?
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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:21 PM

  Interesting, there's only one circuit board in there and that's for controlling the water inlet valves and you said it filled fine. Must have been a connection on one of the switches. Anyway, you got it fixed and it didn't cost you a thing :thumbsup:

 

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:07 PM

Exactly! And so far - 3 years of use (so far) for a machine that cost $150...heck, you can't get a new Riper for that these days!

ROPER...Damned auto correct!
"If you want your tree to produce plenty o' fruit, you've got to cut it back from time to time. Same thing with your neural cells. Some people might call it brain damage. I call it prunin'".




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