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#1 redboxer

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 09:55 PM

So a week before vacation and the fridgiaire FL will not move drum, in wash or spin

 in any cycle. The drum turns easy as does the motor. Fils with water, then groans and clicks through the cycle until the water pumps out. 

 



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:20 PM

It might help to know the model # FWT449GFS1. Often had trouble (when the drum would move, with not entering high spin. like the door was not locked but hte light was on. The drum spins freely by hand as does the motor.

Any help would be appreciated!

 



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Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:06 PM

Find the tech sheets on the lower left side of the cabinet........Run the tests described for no motor action........................  Pull the speed control board and look for visual damages.......Check the wire connections at board and the motor..........This is an old critter, saw one about three weeks age , the timer had failed.....................325 clam$ for a speed control board.. :woot: ................



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 04:26 AM

I always start by trying a new door lock assembly, it's way faster than trying to test it. The door lock is also the most common failure on Frigidaire front load washers.


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:02 AM

Find the tech sheets on the lower left side of the cabinet........Run the tests described for no motor action........................  Pull the speed control board and look for visual damages.......Check the wire connections at board and the motor..........This is an old critter, saw one about three weeks age , the timer had failed.....................325 clam$ for a speed control board.. :woot: ................

What? read instructions first?? This goes against my nature. But then again I replaced the rear drum and bearing on this machine when I needed a new motor. I wondered what those metal pieces were doing around the motor, but since that was step 2 in the repair I breezed right by it. Doh! 
"Look for visual damage", Like what? Big burned hole? This was working OK. Door latch assembly seems to be 'no longer available, but there are others available - I'm assuming for newer models. Will those work with this model? Should I just get a new striker (the part on the door)? It does ;look like the top section may be broken. The door lock light illuminates, fills and drains. drain pump is clear. Why does this always happen on a Friday?



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:11 AM

Door lock assy is still available p/n 131763202, should fit your machine...........Check P/N      131279000 at repair clinic for the picture of  the door "Catch"................does yours look like this????.......................if I remember correctly , the top part of the catch closes a switch in the lock assy. telling the speed board that the door is closed.........................the other tab of the catch locks the door and operates the "Door Locked" light........



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:35 AM

Sensei Cert tech group 51,

 

Indeed thank you for all your help. Hopefully one of these will solve the problem. 



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

Door lock assy is still available p/n 131763202, should fit your machine.....

only if someone has already upgraded the Door Lock Assembly in the past with this NLA kit
http://www.repaircli...?R=154&N=820920
 
Door-Lock-131888900-01235858.jpg


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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:39 PM

Don't need to put  counterweight in makes a nice boat anchor



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:16 PM

It sucks that it's that kit, I was mad as hell at Frigidaire for replacing a single switch with a box full of crap and a big hunk of cement. Put Frigidaire "engineers" in the "stupid bastards" category. Plus, Frigidaire SUCKS at instruction sheets, and this one was like 8 pages with worthless photos.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 07:36 AM

Ok finally the temperature has cooled, and perhaps since it is Sunday, the washer gods will be kind.

On the tech sheets - Voltage drop on speed control 4 pin between 2 and 4 reads 0v. "Check thermal cut out"

Any ideas where this is hidden? This is a replacement motor from original.



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 08:56 AM

Slowly. Slowly.

On the motor, between 7 and 8 resistance is less than 1 ohm;



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 09:06 AM

only if someone has already upgraded the Door Lock Assembly in the past with this NLA kit
http://www.repaircli...?R=154&N=820920
 
Door-Lock-131888900-01235858.jpg

This seems to be true. I replaced the strike with the one commonly available, No joy. In fact had to pry open the door! Almost trashed the washer by "fixing" it with a six dollar part!.

No one has the wiring harness that I can find. Though they may have included a counterweight to increase shipping and deal with excess flyash, it does appear they included superglue to repair the boot seal. That is a nice touch.



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 09:39 AM

Out of Stock — Usually ships within 5 - 6 days

Part number: 131888900

Part number: 131888900


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 09:46 AM

... On the tech sheets - Voltage drop on speed control 4 pin between 2 and 4 reads 0v. "Check thermal cut out"

and you completed Step 2 ?

..... Reconnect electrical power and set the timer to the start of the regular wash cycle

and pull the knob out.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 10:54 AM

Yes. Sorry for the delay, I have been trying to get to the door lock switch and check the connections there.

At step 2, There is a humming sound, but the Motor does not run.



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 11:05 AM

You tried the" most common" door strike???? .....Your old one is very different from the new style.....Another design that is not interchangeable between revisions........................Did you find the wire diagram yet????? .................I think I has one at the warehouse, may go get it if you do not has one...........,



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 11:12 AM

yes I have the wiring diagram. Fairly greek, but with perhaps your help ...



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 11:17 AM

Trying to determine if it is the speed control or the motor.



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Posted 16 June 2013 - 11:27 AM

Have you done the steps by the tech sheet??????....................... If I remember, there is steps to verify power to the speed board and then steps to verify if power is coming out of the timer..........................If I remembering correctly it is power out of terminals 11 and 11B on the timer..............................Sorry about trying to  remember all the steps but I work on all brands and all appliances.................Can't remember everything....... :gulp:............. Wait a second, I can remember when I had my last beer!!!!!!!!.






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