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Electrolux E23BC78IPS0 in Fresh Food section Ice Maker

Frigidaire Ice maker

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#1 Patricio

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:58 PM

New one for me, looks like it is made for Space Shuttle, complicated machine.   The manuals I have found are even more complicated, have to take extra time to study.   Any insights on this icestrocity.     Don't have a clue where to begin, makes me look stupid. 

 

Customer has it turned off, says the thingy magigy stays hot. ( it is hanging on right side of compartment)  Go back Friday morning to look stupid again.   The lady thinks I can just replace it like a whirlpool.   Lady it aint   whirlpool.   4 letter word for sex.  :turned:    Will work for help, help.


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#2 BryanS

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 10:21 PM

Run!!! Those things have a kit to replace all of that crap and the ice maker pcb. Unfortunately, I don't have the part number. They updated the board numerous times. They got rid of that design on the newer models.
First kit I installed took a few hours.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:36 AM

I agree, run. I saw 1 once but luckily it just had some ice jamming up the rotating arm and I escaped with just some slight tremors from the unexpected encounter.


Edited by tpoindexter, 15 August 2013 - 12:36 AM.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:31 AM

is this the icemaker where refrigerant line "fingers" rotate into the mold... I've been studying those things just in case I ran into one. F'in 30 pages of the service manual is devoted to this thing. So it's been discontinued? If we are talking about the same dumb ass contraption then hallelujah! I am just going to refuse to repair one.

Electrolux, we know you are trying to comply with stupid DOE requirements. But come on, you aint gotta be stupid (or in this case, stupider) as well.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:02 AM

Frigidaire Ice Maker Service Flash

http://appliantology...kit-5303918496/

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EW28BS56
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EI28BS70
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EW23BC56
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Part link to service kit 5303918496 ==> http://www.repaircli...3918495/1795305

 

Frigidaire / Electrolux Ice Maker info
http://appliantology...ice-maker-info/

   Frigidaire Ice Maker (Freezer Compartment)
> Frigidaire Ice Maker (Fresh Food Compartment)  32 pages
   Frigidaire Ice Maker (Flex Tray Fresh Food Compartment)

 

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:07 PM

That service kit grew every time I've ordered one.  I think it started out with just the splashguard.  Then they added the icemaker control board, heater and sensor, motor and shut off arm, etc.

 

Patricio, the customer said the icemaker stayed hot.  There is an expansion valve that's part of the icemaker evaporator.  Could be mechanical problem keeping it in harvest mode, hopefully. 

 

Once you begin servicing this icemaker, prepare to be married to it.

 

The latest, and most effective repair tip (for overfrosting), remove the ice bin from the shroud.  Shine a flashlight inside the shroud, particularly along the top right side and top front.  Upon finding gaps, seal with foam tape.  This simple fix seemed to correct more frosting issues than anything in the service kit.


Edited by PDuff, 15 August 2013 - 02:14 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:46 PM

Nightmare

Arm
http://www.repaircli...1939901/1483653
IM Control
http://www.repaircli...umber=241956703
Dielectric grease for every connection
http://www.repaircli...4485963/2690447
Foam tape seals to keep moisture out of the ice room
http://www.repaircli...1869708/1531414
Clean the ice room evaporator drain as well.

There's a good reason this ice maker wasn't in production long.
I'd like to find the engineer who came up with it and stick bamboo slits up his/her toenails!


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:26 PM

In the war between Techs and Appliances, I'd let the appliance win this battle and graciously beat an organized retreat with my manhood intact. Call me chicken but a real beer drinking quiche-hating man must know his limitations and in all things, he must certainly know when to pull out.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:42 PM

This thing is absurb!   The 30 pages on the IM  crazy.   I need some of the stuff the engineer was smoking.   $3500 refrigerator, who in their right mind would spend that kind of cash.   Been a long day  my head hurts looking at this thing.    The diagnostic codes are mind boggling.    I am getting to old, can't comprehend.

 

The service flash, "if the unit has previously been upgraded with kit *18485, order & install kit *18496.  If the unit has not been upgraded in past, order & install kit *18495".   I won't go into the claim filing BS, but will say that it states if unit is over 18 months old claim will be rejected even if authorization is approved.   Email .....the rejected claim number.   

 

I amin the starting block shoot the gun so I can run...Damn why me, lady expects me to fix.  


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 10:10 AM

Lady really wants me to repair, what am I to do.   She is confident that I can.

 

In the war between Techs and Appliances, I'd let the appliance win this battle and graciously beat an organized retreat with my manhood intact. Call me chicken but a real beer drinking quiche-hating man must know his limitations and in all things, he must certainly know when to pull out.

I am a stubborn old mule who is a sucker for punishment.  Onward thru the fog. :rolleyes:

 

 

Patricio, the customer said the icemaker stayed hot.  There is an expansion valve that's part of the icemaker evaporator.  Could be mechanical problem keeping it in harvest mode, hopefully. 

How would I check or repair the expansion valve?  Wouldn't I need to enter the sealed system?


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:29 PM

Through the diagnostics list in the ice make test sheet.

"Suds are not good"
"They write directions for a reason"
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:34 PM

I think the EEV should be ok, Patricio.  If you are going to repair order the latest service kit.  Some of the parts that are updates to other areas of the refrigerator you may or may not wish to install, just use your discretion.  Do replace everything having to do with the icemaker, heater, motor, I/M control board, foam tape, etc.  Perform the cycle and component tests listed.

 

Just be up front with the customer and advise her of the history of the product and that you can't guarantee how long it will work.  And keep in mind Brother Durham's Dirty Harry quote, "A man's got to know his limitations".






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