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Help Selecting A New VOM For Appliance Repair?


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#21 Squeaky Clean

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 07:26 PM

No, not that one. K type is the connector standard for most meters. Plus the bead end. Something along the lines of this:

http://www.amazon.co...igh temperature

The IR thermometer looks good, but check your local Sears or online. I got mine, the mini one, for $30 on sale.

Did you watch the Samurai's video on his tool back back? Check it out. That will give you a good idea of what to have.

  

Ok,  Thanks!  Are those input plugs pretty standard......... Do you think that would fit my meter or will I have to change it out?    


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#22 beam current

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 07:34 PM

Yes it will fit you Extech meter. K type is the industry standard for this type of thermocouple.
I think this will work. I once saw it on a cartoon.

Or, on the other hand.....

Troubleshooting the appliance's complex electro-mechanical systems is the methodology in which one must, by using analyitical techniques and the process of elimination, determine the cause or causes of a specific failure. Rarely does this cause of a failure directly present itself for you to see.

So.....

To be better equipped to troubleshoot, you will need:

1.) To follow this: Safety first and foremost. Trust your instincts.
2.) Basic hand tools.
3.) A decent DVOM meter. Buy one. Borrow one. You need one.
4.) Last, but certainty not least, common sense. Most of us have it. Slow down and use it.

Now, let's have some fun!

ZIG:
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#23 beam current

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 07:37 PM

I was editing my post at the same time you were posting. Please go back and read the threads from page one.
I think this will work. I once saw it on a cartoon.

Or, on the other hand.....

Troubleshooting the appliance's complex electro-mechanical systems is the methodology in which one must, by using analyitical techniques and the process of elimination, determine the cause or causes of a specific failure. Rarely does this cause of a failure directly present itself for you to see.

So.....

To be better equipped to troubleshoot, you will need:

1.) To follow this: Safety first and foremost. Trust your instincts.
2.) Basic hand tools.
3.) A decent DVOM meter. Buy one. Borrow one. You need one.
4.) Last, but certainty not least, common sense. Most of us have it. Slow down and use it.

Now, let's have some fun!

ZIG:
Hope is the power that gives a person the confidence to step out and try.
Success is the maximum utilization of the ability you have.

N.M.:
It always seems impossible until it's done.

#24 Squeaky Clean

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 07:42 AM

Beam,

     Thank you so much for this information, I will get one ordered. Is the sensor that comes with the meter (looks like a wire), just not accurate enough to make proper measurements?

 

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   I'm also thinking about getting one of these :  http://www.amazon.co...c hanging strap


Edited by Squeaky Clean, 23 August 2014 - 07:58 AM.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 09:57 AM

Do you have confirmation that a magnetic strap is not included in your kit and that the Klein strap works for your meter?? If no to both, Why not get the strap made for your meter? http://www.coleparme...ers/EW-95001-97 Amazon also has it but there must be some pricing mistake since they are charging $309 for a $9 strap http://www.amazon.co...ds=hg500 extech

Edited by DurhamAppliance, 23 August 2014 - 10:02 AM.

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#26 Squeaky Clean

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 01:59 PM

Thanks Durham!  I was looking for a brand specific magnetic strap for my meter but it never came up in my searches.  Thank you for your help, its much appreciated.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:29 PM

Dang, $309 ?!?!? DA's right, the mag hanger has to be compatible with your specific meter.

The K probe that comes with your meter is fine. You'll be using that for refrigerator calls. It's not made for high temp applications. That's why I suggested buying a high temp probe for oven calls.

You will attach this into the meter lead plugs using the white adapter. I do not see a separate K type connection. Also make sure you calibrate the probe using an ice water slurry mix to 32 degrees F, if your meter supports this. It should.

That does look like a pretty good starter set, but it probably will have some limitations compared to the higher cost meters. It will work just fine for you though.
I think this will work. I once saw it on a cartoon.

Or, on the other hand.....

Troubleshooting the appliance's complex electro-mechanical systems is the methodology in which one must, by using analyitical techniques and the process of elimination, determine the cause or causes of a specific failure. Rarely does this cause of a failure directly present itself for you to see.

So.....

To be better equipped to troubleshoot, you will need:

1.) To follow this: Safety first and foremost. Trust your instincts.
2.) Basic hand tools.
3.) A decent DVOM meter. Buy one. Borrow one. You need one.
4.) Last, but certainty not least, common sense. Most of us have it. Slow down and use it.

Now, let's have some fun!

ZIG:
Hope is the power that gives a person the confidence to step out and try.
Success is the maximum utilization of the ability you have.

N.M.:
It always seems impossible until it's done.

#28 Squeaky Clean

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 06:22 PM

Dang, $309 ?!?!? DA's right, the mag hanger has to be compatible with your specific meter.

The K probe that comes with your meter is fine. You'll be using that for refrigerator calls. It's not made for high temp applications. That's why I suggested buying a high temp probe for oven calls.

You will attach this into the meter lead plugs using the white adapter. I do not see a separate K type connection. Also make sure you calibrate the probe using an ice water slurry mix to 32 degrees F, if your meter supports this. It should.

That does look like a pretty good starter set, but it probably will have some limitations compared to the higher cost meters. It will work just fine for you though.

 

     Thank you both, now I u


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:04 PM

I just ordered the fluke 116/323 combo and the supco 501 megger kit, yesterday I ordered the membrane tester.

 

Could someone make a video using the icemaker diagnostic thingy ? I want to see the pretty lights.   http://www.apdepot.c...rd&keyword=imt1



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 05:47 PM

Is a "megger kit" crucial for diagnosing an issue with compressor windings or can this be accomplished with a good quality VOM?


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:24 PM

I just ordered the fluke 116/323 combo and the supco 501 megger kit, yesterday I ordered the membrane tester.
 
Could someone make a video using the icemaker diagnostic thingy ? I want to see the pretty lights.   http://www.apdepot.c...rd&keyword=imt1


I think Samurai made one. Maybe it was the dryer vent tester. Try an "IMT1" search here and Youtube. It's easy. Just install on the IM module and follow the directions.

Pizzazz sells.
I think this will work. I once saw it on a cartoon.

Or, on the other hand.....

Troubleshooting the appliance's complex electro-mechanical systems is the methodology in which one must, by using analyitical techniques and the process of elimination, determine the cause or causes of a specific failure. Rarely does this cause of a failure directly present itself for you to see.

So.....

To be better equipped to troubleshoot, you will need:

1.) To follow this: Safety first and foremost. Trust your instincts.
2.) Basic hand tools.
3.) A decent DVOM meter. Buy one. Borrow one. You need one.
4.) Last, but certainty not least, common sense. Most of us have it. Slow down and use it.

Now, let's have some fun!

ZIG:
Hope is the power that gives a person the confidence to step out and try.
Success is the maximum utilization of the ability you have.

N.M.:
It always seems impossible until it's done.

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:34 PM

Is a "megger kit" crucial for diagnosing an issue with compressor windings or can this be accomplished with a good quality VOM?


Yes the megger is the best way to check for compressor winding insulation breakdown ie., an inefficient compressor or nuisance trips.

However, a meter will show a winding when you have a "hard" short to ground.

I think I know what your next question is Squeaky ;). I recommend the Fieldpiece megger. Small and compact. And mine has worked nicely for years. But again, do your homework.
I think this will work. I once saw it on a cartoon.

Or, on the other hand.....

Troubleshooting the appliance's complex electro-mechanical systems is the methodology in which one must, by using analyitical techniques and the process of elimination, determine the cause or causes of a specific failure. Rarely does this cause of a failure directly present itself for you to see.

So.....

To be better equipped to troubleshoot, you will need:

1.) To follow this: Safety first and foremost. Trust your instincts.
2.) Basic hand tools.
3.) A decent DVOM meter. Buy one. Borrow one. You need one.
4.) Last, but certainty not least, common sense. Most of us have it. Slow down and use it.

Now, let's have some fun!

ZIG:
Hope is the power that gives a person the confidence to step out and try.
Success is the maximum utilization of the ability you have.

N.M.:
It always seems impossible until it's done.

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 02:55 AM

Is a "megger kit" crucial for diagnosing an issue with compressor windings or can this be accomplished with a good quality VOM?

 

 

no its crucial for many other things though

 

great for defrost elements , they measure ok but have a leak to earth when using the megger

 

also when appliances are tripping the circuit

 

and of course electrical safety



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 05:49 PM

I'm a little peeoed at Amazon. When I ordered my meter combo that said it would be delivered no later the 28th and then I got my shipping confirmation 4 days later and its the 30th..........just checked the Fedex Post website and it states a 9/03 delivery!! This was an Amazon fulfillment order  (not a vendor filled order) :rolleyes:


Edited by Squeaky Clean, 27 August 2014 - 05:51 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 09:25 PM

Sorry Dude, I'm sure it'll get there soon. For Me, It was like christmas today. I received the fluke 116/323 kit,  the supco megger and the membrane tester.  :rocker:



#36 Squeaky Clean

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 10:11 AM

 Samtech,

 

         Sounds like you got all of your equipment from one source........so where did you shop,  What kind of deal did you get?  :woot:


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 02:03 PM

I get 2 day free shipping from Amazon Prime. And their prices were better than anywhere local. The k type sensor with the clamp should be here today 






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