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Kenmore series 70 washer leaking water and oil


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Posted 26 May 2005 - 07:30 PM

Hi,

our washing machine has begun to create a dry gear noise during spin cycle. It had been slowly leaking for quite a while leaving drips of gear oil on the floor, so it must have gone dry. It appears to be coming from the input shaft shaft seal. Is this seal available for replacement, or is a new gearcase required?

Also, the machine has occasionally leaked a bit of water when set to "high" water level. When I had the cabinet off, I can find hard water deposits around the joint where the outer basket and metal frame meet (center bottom). Thats the closest I can tell to where it's coming from. If I'm going to have to tear it apart, I might as well have all new seals available, right? Is there an entire seal kit available or what seals do I need?

The machine works fine otherwise, I just need to plug all the holes :? Thanks

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 12:40 PM

Sounds like you need a transmission and a tub grommet.  You will have to remove the tub to replace this grommet.
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Posted 28 May 2005 - 08:52 PM

Ok, thanks Pegi. I finally found the input shaft seal kit, I'll try that before I buy a whole new transmission.

Any other seals besides the main tub grommet that I should change when I have the machine apart?

Thanks again

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Posted 29 May 2005 - 11:14 AM

You will also have to refill the transmission with FSP oil with the specified amount if it has "gone dry'" and has no oil in it.
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 08:38 PM

It was definately the main tub grommet leaking water.  Plenty of corrosion around the center of the tub support from the water.  The old grommet was hard as a rock.  Got that fixed, thank you!

Now to the transmission.  The leaking oil turned out to be coming from the cover instead of the input shaft, so I didn't bother changing the seals.  I did open the cover, flush and refill with fresh oil.  However, the machine still makes noise during the spin cycle.  Still sounds like gear noise.  Kinda like a ratchet sound, or an eggbeater with stripped gears.  Only makes noise during spin.  With a short piece of vinyl tubing for a makeshift stethascope, and running the washer with the cabinet off, I'm fairly confident it is coming from the transmission.  Is it possible the agitation drive is not completely disengaging and "buzzing" teeth?   I'd sure rather rebuild the transmission over buying a new one if someone can suggest some parts that might be worn.  Thanks again!


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Posted 07 June 2005 - 05:50 AM

We have never repaired the transmissions, just replaced them.  Check to see how much a new or rebuilt one is from this site.  Unless some one else in here can give some help on rebuilding hers??
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Posted 25 June 2005 - 08:57 PM

I finally got around to pulling the transmission out again and tearing it down. I found that the bevels on the agitate cam had worn down just enough that they were not completely disengaging the agitate pinion from the splines on the agitate shaft thereby creating the noise. I found a shim that looked about right and added it to the shim already in place between the pinion and cam. Now all put back together and it spins quiet!

Hmmm, but the first load after agitating, it began to drain while trying to spin at the same time. Now after the rinse cycle, then it did drain in neutral, pause then spin. Well, I think I answered my own question. I might need a new neutral drain kit, but I reeeeallly dont want to take it apart again!

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Posted 26 June 2005 - 10:15 AM

Just try it the way it is, the original trannys were direct into drain, then they changed to the nutral drain.  Puts more strain on the coupler and motor, but will give you time to decide what you want to do.
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