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Welded Relay Contacts on Kenmore Wall Oven


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#1 kwarmath

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 02:30 AM

How do i determine if my oven has welded relay contacts?  I'm getting an F2 code which means the oven is getting too hot.  The over immediately comes on when it is plugged in, that is, it is "on" when in the "off position".  I cannot turn it off or adjust the temp.  The manual says this condition could be caused by welded relay contacts.  How do i check for this and if they are welded how do i repair?

much, much thanks in advance.

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 10:28 AM

Welded relays usually mean on a board in the oven, the board would have to be replaced. but since Sears makes nothing and we cannot see who made this or see what is in it, we are all dead in the water till the model number is posted.
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 10:58 AM

the model number is 911.49032.  I believe the 911 means that it was manufactured by Roper.  Does this help?

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 11:11 AM

Yes, Roper is now WP but  G/E bought out the parts source for these.  Sears cannot find any information for this model. so sort of at a dead end here as far as seeing what is in this 30" electric B-I wall oven.
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 12:06 PM

I notice on top of the control there is a GE part number which is 164D4170P026.  Does that tell you anything?

Even if we assume i have a welded contact, is this the sort of thing i can fix without replacing the entire control?  Is this the sort of job a handy homeowner can do himself?


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Posted 02 June 2005 - 12:27 PM

Nah, that is just some sort of MFG. #   the original number would likely be a FSP # but would cross to another number.  Most controls and  switches are made by G.E. for all of the brands.  Can you check to see if there are more numbers to the model number???  How old is this unit, cannot go into the Roper fisch since this has the Kenmore name and number  :(
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Posted 02 June 2005 - 06:24 PM

I don't usually find too many welded contacts unless the element blew out recently.I would suspect that the oven sensor is shorted causing the erroneous F-2 code to flash. Did you self clean the oven recently? If yes can almost gaurantee the sensor is n/g

 

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Posted 03 June 2005 - 01:10 AM

if by sensor, you mean thermostat, i swapped the top and bottom oven thermostats and still have the problem of the bottom oven coming on when plugged in (not when i actually turn it on with the controls).  I didn't self clean the oven, but i did let the oven stay on for 10-15 minutes and it got very very hot ... way over 700 degrees, because i put a termometer in it.

I've ordered a new control panel and am going to swap it out and see if that fixes the problem.  I don't know what else to do...


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Posted 03 June 2005 - 04:58 AM




ROPER
Range/Stove Oven- Alternative 2 Digit Fault Codes







[align=center]Failure
Code
[/align]

[align=center]Condition[/align]

[align=left]Check/Repair[/align]


[align=left]F1 [/align]

[align=left]Analog to Digital Failure [/align]

[align=left]Disconnect for 30 seconds - if display re-appears - replace control [/align]


[align=left]F1 [/align]

[align=left]Safety flip flop[/align]

[align=left]Replace component [/align]


[align=left]F1[/align]

[align=left]Shorted keypad [/align]

[align=left]Replace component [/align]


[align=left]F3[/align]

[align=left]Oven temperature sensor opened[/align]

[align=left]Measure oven temperature sensor resistance, should be1100 ohms. If not, replace sensor[/align]


[align=left]F2[/align]

[align=left]Oven temperature sensor shorted [/align]

[align=left]Replace oven temperature sensor [/align]


[align=left]F3[/align]

[align=left]Oven too hot[/align]

[align=left]Replace oven temperature sensor[/align]


[align=left]F3[/align]

[align=left]Clean temp too hot[/align]

[align=left]Replace oven temperature sensor[/align]

F5
Check door/latch switch
Replace component
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