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Kenmore washer, drains faster than fills!


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#1 LynRat

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 09:18 AM

Lady Kenmore 110. 82094830
Sometimes it works fine through the wash cycle, then while filling for the rinse cycle, it just freeflows thru the drain. But most times it just drains as it is filling, seems to work intermittently.
Sometimes if I turn the w/m off during this problem, a few minutes later can start it backup and it works fine. The drain hose is at a height above the tub, and a Kung Fu kick to the machine does not seem to help.
I have found the parts list and diagram on the Sears website, just not sure what part should be replaced if any. Would it be the pump itself that is passing the water through or the manifold?

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 09:49 AM

You say the hose is "above the tub", would appear to eliminate "siphoning" as the cause.

Two possibilities:

1)  The pump has a built-in "flapper" inside. The seal on this may be worn out allowing water to pass while filling/agitating

2) The lever which activates the flapper may not be getting pushed back into place after pumpout.

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 09:57 AM

If it is draining while filling, the motor is not running so cannot be pumping the water out.  The drain hose end has to be above the water level of the washer and there has to be an air gap between the hose and the stand pipe or the sewer system will suck the water right out of your washer....
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 10:31 AM

Thanks for the quick response! The mention of the "flapper" valve not closing all the time would appear to be the best possibility. Is it possible that just disassembling the pump for a clean out might fix the problem? Or should I just fork out the yen for a new pump? It is customary for me to disassemble/reassemble things before buying parts, but short on cash and short on time.
Again, thank you for your infinite wisdom and insight!


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Posted 06 June 2005 - 10:41 AM

If the flapper in the pump were broken the washer would fill just fine but would drain while agitating.   You did not indicate the washer was running while this was happening.  If it is draining while filling and the motor is not running the pump is not even turning so could not be pumping the water out.  Unless I mis-understood what you were saying???
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 12:53 PM

I would start by putting an anti-siphon valve on the drain hose, it's cheap and easy to install.
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 01:03 PM

Let me explain what is happening.  The belt driven washers filled then the transmission shifted into agitate and the same cam bar closed the water pump for recirculate.  When it was time to drain the cam bar shifted the transmission into nutral and opened the water pump so it could drain.  After the drain time was up, the basket drive would activate to let the washer spin.  When this washer stopped spinning and filled for the rinse cycle, the pump flapper is still open and the sewer system already has this suction going on this hose/pump assy, so there goes your water right into the washer, thru the pump and down the drain.  Install the air gap/anti-syphen device on your drain hose to stop this from happening.  Now, IF your washer is filling and agitating at the same time, you have a different problem that would have to be addressed.
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Posted 06 June 2005 - 03:28 PM

Pegi,

Excellent description of the siphon condition.

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 05:52 PM

;) Thanks, I know those belt driven like a book, worked on hundreds of them. 
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Posted 14 June 2005 - 09:23 AM

I'm having the same problem with my Kenmore washer, model number 110.81862100. It makes it through the first wash cycle, but then fills/drains indefinitely during the rinse. What is this mysterious anti-siphon device, and where can I find one? I've been looking for information about it, but I haven't had much luck.

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Posted 14 June 2005 - 10:30 AM

This is just a devise that goes into the house drain that the drain hose from your washer attaches to that creates an air gap so the water will not siphen from your washer.  There are several styles.
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