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az_repair_gal

Member Since 27 Mar 2006
Offline Last Active Jul 24 2012 03:09 PM

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Whirlpool LA9200W Washer On Last Legs - Seeking Replacement Advice

14 July 2012 - 12:56 PM

Hi all! With the help of this forum, I've managed to keep my Whirlpool LA9200W washer and LE9200H dryer operational for more than 21 years. I've taken apart and reassembled the washer multiple times and replaced just about every part in the pair over the years. it's been an incredible journey.

Now the dogs have worn out in the agitator for the third time, the cabinet shakes, and there is advanced cabinet rust around the bleach dispenser. I'm finally, reluctantly, ready to call it quits on this pair.

However, I'm uncertain where to go from here. So much has changed in the past 2 decades! I am not a fan of front-loaders for various reasons, so I'm only looking at top-loading. Yesterday I saw the Samsung WA5451ANW / DV5451AEW. The pair is recommended by Consumer Reports and the washer gets good consumer reviews (although some folks are disgruntled about low water levels and not being able to change settings once a cycle starts).

I believe the washer is direct drive, but there is no agitator. The pair has only been on the market since 2011, so you should not have come across them for repairs yet. So I would appreciate some general feedback about Samsung in general. (There's a very similar LG pair but I've always heard LG has quality control issues - is that still true?)

So... for the masters that have helped me over the years, here are my questions:

--What do you think of this Samsung pair? ($999/ea retail, my cost is $850 ea + tax, delivery etc.)
--If money were no object, what toploading duo would you buy for your own use?
--Considering my experience with the Whirlpool pair, do you think I will be able to repair these Samsungs after they fall out of warranty?
--Given ease/difficulty of repair, would you recommend I purchase an extended warranty?

Thanks!

Whirlpool Washer LA9200W Bad Tranny?

05 May 2012 - 12:49 PM

It's me again... my 21-year old Whirlpool washer is still in service, thanks to this forum.

About 3 years ago I had a problem with the washer. Thought it was the tranny but it wound up being the motor instead. Here is the URL for that issue, FYI.

http://applianceguru...m2/19872-1.html

At that time we replaced the tranny with a rebuilt one from a boneyard before we figured out the problem was actually the motor. Since then, cycles on the washer have been gradually going out. We lost 'gentle' almost immediately. The washer would agitate but when it was supposed to drain and spin, it would just stop. We had to rotate the dial to another cycle to spin and drain.

We kept talking about putting the original tranny back in but something else always came up, and we are basically lazy anyway, so for the past 3 years we have been washing everything on 'regular.' ('Perma press' never worked, as far as we can tell - but we don't use that cycle, so no biggie.) Everything was fine until a couple of days ago. Now the 'regular' cycle gets to a certain point on the dial and just quits - same as 'gentle.' When I rotate the dial to the dot, it agitates but no matter where I position the dial it will not drain or spin.

With a "no spin, no drain" problem I would not be surprised if you point me to the lid switch, but I replaced it a few years ago and I can hear an audible click when the lid closes. (I suppose I could check the ohms for those of you who are anal about that). Others of you might diagnose the timer or the pump (both of which I've also replaced in recent years). But given the pattern of lost functionality and the length of time involved, I suspect the rebuilt tranny was never quite right.

I still have the original transmission - we kept it when we figured out there was actually nothing wrong with it. What do you think? Should I swap out the tranny before buying any other parts?

Goettl heat pump HP-601F2 only blows heat when the sun is up

04 November 2011 - 04:54 PM

This one has us going crazy. The heat pump blows cold air before the sun comes up. Later in the day when the sun is shining on the roof, the air coming out of the vents feels warmer - but not much, and it takes a long time to bring up the temp of the house. When it's very cold at night, the unit runs all night long, blows cold air and the inside temp just keeps slipping.

The unit is switching ok from A/C to heat, and is not stuck in defrost mode - the defrost control and sensor were replaced less than a year ago. Evap coils were professionally cleaned just over a year ago. Beyond that, we have no clue. We've had servicemen out several times but they always get here when it's warmer outside and the problem seems to be fixed... until the sun goes down again.

Maybe it's worth mentioning that the A/C works like a champ. It was nice and cool in here all summer, even when the temps outside were over 110 several days in a row.

Replacement Advice for Whirlpool DU8770XB-0 Dishwasher

18 September 2010 - 02:55 PM

I've had this under counter dishwasher since ~'92, and this is the first problem I've had with it.  It does not fill with water - either a bad inlet valve or float, based on the research I've done on this site.  You guys know me - I'd much rather fix than replace.  However, my teen daughter's bedroom is behind the kitchen - her study desk is on the other side of the wall, opposite the dishwasher - and it is VERY LOUD.  I can hear it running 2 rooms over - you can imagine what it is like in her room!  We can't run it at night when she is sleeping, we can't run it when she is studying... So I promised her last year that if we ever had a problem with it, I would replace it with the quietest model I could find.

I checked Consumer Reports, but interestingly the models they recommend got mediocre to lousy user ratings.  Reviews on home warehouse websites are not very illuminating, either.  When a new dishwasher leaks, is that a problem with the dishwasher, or the install?  My guess is the install. 

So I thought the best idea would be to ask the pros.  I need QUIET, would prefer efficient, and of course I need it to clean.  (I don't think that I should have to scrub my plates before putting them in a dishwasher!  What's the point of that?? )  Having had great luck with Whirlpool, I am leaning toward a Whirlpool model but am not sure how quiet they are compared to some of the others.  I am also used to the layout of the Whirlpool racks, and actually like the silverware rack in the door.  However, I have a hodgepodge of appliances in the kitchen - GE oven and microwave, Kitchen Aid side by side, and Whirlpool cooktop - so I am not completely wedded to the brand.  The only requirement is that it fit in the opening occupied by the DU8770 and that it has a stainless front.  The DU8770 also has a latch rather than a handle which I consider a plus, but if the best model has a handle I guess I will deal with it poking me in the hip until I get used to it being there.

Reg US and Appl Tech, I am particularly interested in your opinions.  Would like some specific model numbers to check out, if you have them handy.  Thanks!

5 Ton Package Heat Pump - Repair or Replace?

23 June 2010 - 10:03 AM

Hi All,

We have a 5-ton Goettl package heat pump, installed in 1993, that works ok but needs a little work (condenser fan motor bearings, contacts, evap coil needs cleaning, etc.).  Three times in the past 8 months, the compressor has shut off on overload due to the loose bearings getting too hot.  We turn it off for about an hour to cool down, switch it back on and it works fine. 

So, ok.  17 years is more than we could reasonably expect to get out of a heat pump - especially here in Phoenix - and the Feds have that rebate program going, so we called out a company to perform the Manual J calculation and price a new unit for us.   The guy did not do the full Manual J but confirmed that we do need a 5-ton.  Based on what I've been able to find in threads on this site, that seems to be correct.

Now here's where it gets interesting.  I fully expected the guy to try to sell us a high-end system.  Instead, he told us that we have an over/under unit, and without jerry rigging the duct work (or overhauling it to the tune of about $1,500-2,000), there is only one 5-ton system on the market that will work - a 13 SEER Trane entry level over/under package unit with single-stage compressor.  Ugh.

So, no Federal rebate, no Trane rebate, no energy savings to speak of - and just shy of $6,000 installed.  The Trane has less capacity (53,500 BTU vs. 58,000 in our existing 11 SEER unit), so we will not really be gaining much, if anything, with the 'upgrade.'  And, the Trane unit comes with only a 5-year parts/compressor warranty, not the standard 10-year. Crud.

The Goettl has performed like a champ for us for more than 17 years.  When we were told that the repairs would come in at somewhere around $650-800, we were all set to send it into graceful retirement.  But now we're starting to rethink this.  Given that we really don't have an urgent need to replace the unit, and that there are no attractive replacement options, what if we repair the Goettl and hold off on the replacement unit for a while?  We could easily get a few more years out of this system with the new parts.  We would of course be gambling that the compressor will not go out, but it has never given us any trouble.  And if it did go out, the total repair cost would still be less than half the cost of a new unit. 

$6K is a huge chunk of change.  We would be gambling about 1/10 of that if we go with the repairs.  It represents something of a risk, but right now we are strongly leaning toward the repairs.  Your thoughts, as always, are greatly appreciated. What would you do if were your unit and your money...?  :D

 



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