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Member Since 16 Oct 2009
Offline Last Active Sep 07 2014 11:43 PM

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In Topic: Will Staber washer work with low water pressure?

26 October 2009 - 08:25 PM

Hi Willie.

We probably bought our old Whirlpool machine about 24 years ago when you were a noviate appliantologist. It was then undoubtedly old enough to vote. So, even the old outmoded held-together-with-baling-wire washers back then had this same style of fill valve?

I suppose I could take the fill valve off the old machine and dissect it in the name of Science...


In Topic: Laptop advice

23 October 2009 - 07:08 PM

Speaking of theft prevention tricks, I was talking to Jasper the Potter as he packed up his pots and clay etc. after an old-timey-crafts demonstration thingy. Inside his authentic period white canvas wall tent were hidden the heavy duty plastic boxes he hauls his wares in. But among said boxes was a plastic bucket of the sort kitty litter is sold in, still prominently labeled as such. I asked what he used the kitty litter for. Jasper looked around to see if anyone else was listening, then told me in a conspiratorial whisper, "That's my camera case. I've had several cameras stolen, but never since I started using this for the case."

In Topic: Will Staber washer work with low water pressure?

23 October 2009 - 05:22 AM

Thanks, Willie.

We used our ancient Whirlpool Model LPA4505W0 with suds saver for years in our gravity-fed system. Did this machine have the style of fill valve you describe? If so, it would seem like the Staber ought to work.

If we get brave and plunk down a grand plus for a new Staber... or any machine, and discover that it won't work on our low-pressure system, I suppose we could plumb a small pressure pump and pressure switch into the pipe feeding the washer. Would we need a pressure tank as well, or would it work just to have the pump pumping straight into the fill valve?

In Topic: Will Staber washer work with low water pressure?

21 October 2009 - 12:09 PM

Thanks, Graybadger.

In our research, we talked to folks at Backwoods Solar in Idaho, who list the Staber in their excellent renewable energy catalog. Or did. Since their 2009 catalog came out, they have apparently decided to quit selling the Staber, due to supply problems. Which also worries me.

According to this ostensible authority:


the issue with low water pressure is that most modern washing machines are controlled by computers that are programmed to abort the cycle if water fill exceeds a preset time limit. While our good ol' Whirlpool suds saver just sat there patiently filling, meditating on the T'ao, these allegedly more efficient Millenial Generation machines appartently have a video-game attention span.

The phone line tech at Staber told me that their machines don't have this kind of computer, and they would wait for the water to fill to the proper level no matter how long it takes. Staber says a typical water use is 5 to 7 gallons per cycle, and our system fills a 5 gallon bucket in 3 minutes. So I still can't see why our gravity system should be a problem.

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