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In Topic: Whirlpool Gold GD25DIXHS02 - defrost heater 2323198

28 September 2014 - 10:42 AM

I was wrong!  Just read the NEC  This is  Article 210.8(A)(2) where it talks about GFCI in garages.  There appears to be two exceptions....


(A) All Occupancies. All 125-volt, single -phase, 15

and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the

locations specified in (1) through (9) shall have

ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for


(1) Bathrooms

(2) Garages, and also accessory building that have a

floor located at or below grade level not intended

as habitable rooms and limited to storage area,

work areas, and areas of similar use

Exception No. 1 to (2): Receptacles that are not

readily accessible.

Exception No.2 to (2): A single receptacle or a

duplex receptacle for two appliances located within

dedicated for each appliance that, in normal use, is

not easily moved from one place to another and that

is cord-and-plug connected in accordance with

400.7(A)(6), (A)(7), OR (A)(8).



So if you put your fridge on a dedicated circuit, only one receptacle for that breaker and nothing else, you don't have to have it on a GFCI.

In Topic: Maytag Neptune mah6500aww pump and spin works but still water in washer.

26 September 2014 - 08:15 AM

Oh ok. Then the sloshing noise is solved. But what about the water still left at the bottom of the drum after a normal cycle. I have to run a separate spin cycle to get rid of it all. As soon as I press the spin cycle button, the pump activates and removes most of the standing water. So the pump works.

I just opened up the back. Hoses are clear, pump is clear, and impeller is intact.

Your drain pump should be able to remove all of the water in less than 5 mins.  Try hooking a WetVac to the end of the drain hose and see how quickly water is removed from the hose.  If it comes out and fills up the ShopVac fairly quick, you more than likely need a new drain pump.  Also, Kurtius' question is just as valid as mine, and probably more likely...

In Topic: Whirlpool Gold GD25DIXHS02 - defrost heater 2323198

24 September 2014 - 10:02 PM

When I built my house, I had the electrician wire a circuit that wasn't hooked up so I could have a dedicated non gfci circuit for my ref I hooked up after final inspection. Older refs and gfci's don't mix. That being said, he can likely replace the heater, but any moisture in cabinet can also conduct power to ground. Also as the Samari has pointed out, compressor windings can bleed a little power to ground and trip gfci but run perfectly safe on normal grounded non gfci circuit

. What he can safely do, should do and what can legally be done aren't always the same. The NEC changes every 3 or 4 years. If he makes a change that doesn't alight with the code, it could have a negative effect if he ever goes to sell the home.

In Topic: Whirlpool Gold GD25DIXHS02 - defrost heater 2323198

23 September 2014 - 08:03 PM

I tested it on a non-GFI and then forced it into the defrost cycle, no problem the defrost heater gets hot immediately. Only problem leaving it that way is the non-GFI outlet is a drop from the ceiling in the middle of the garage and I had to use a heavy duty extension cord. I'll probably end up adding a dedicated outlet for the fridge in the garage, but I'm really curious as to whether the defrost heater is supposed to have continuity from the terminals to the outer casing. I tried calling a local appliance parts place to see I could bring a multimeter and test one before buying it but they said no.

No it should be compleatly open from the terminals to the outer casing. As you can see many techs would have dismissed the GFCI as the problem, where the heater is your main problem. Good catch!! The GFCI was jus doing the job it was designed to do.

According the the 2014 NEC (national electric code) all recepicles in the garage need to be GFCI. It would be best to check with your local miniciple code office to fine out for sure before replacing any GFCI or AFCI recepicles.


23 September 2014 - 07:57 PM

bad secondary valve on the water dispensor, when the IM calls for water, it opens pimary and secondary to the IM
now with a bad secondary valve to the water dispensor, when the IM opens the primary valve, the bad secondary valve to the water dispensor leaks

Makes sence to me.

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