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If You Get These Test Results on a Load, You Should Immediately Know the Problem...


Here's a short and sweet case study for you. An Appliantologist was working on a GE washer with an inop drain pump, and so he ran some tests. We'll go through those tests, and as we do, the problem should jump out at you right away

First, here's the schematic of the drain pump:

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Just a 120 VAC pump that gets Line and Neutral from the control board. Doesn't get simpler than that!

Here's the first test our tech did -- a voltage test with his multimeter from the Line to the Neutral pin on the board. Our tech did this and all his other voltage tests with the pump connected to the board and running in diagnostic mode.

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His meter read 0 volts. Well, that immediately tells you that there's a problem with the power supply!

Next test:

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This is showing a voltage test from the Line pin to chassis ground. Before we get to the results of this test, let me say that this is not how you should do this test. When doing AC voltage testing, you should never use ground as your reference. Ground is never an intended part of an AC circuit -- but Neutral is. So Neutral should always be your reference, and there's a conveniently accessible Neutral going to the inverter on this board: J506 pin 2.

Regardless, the result of this test was 120 volts. Well that's interesting -- so there is voltage standing on pin 2 of the drain pump connector.

If you're a sharp tech who's been around the block once or twice, you can already tell what the issue is. But our tech wanted to be thorough, so he carried on with some more testing.

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Same test as before, but this time on pin 3 -- the Neutral pin. And he got the same result: 120 volts. 120 volts on Neutral? That's weird.

So, to recap: we have 0 volts from pin 2 to pin 3, but 120 volts from either pin to an external reference. Your spidey-senses should really be tingling now. But here are a couple more tests our tech did while you ponder:

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A resistance test through the drain pump from the control read about 20 ohms -- in spec for this pump. According to ohms, at least, it's good.

But we know not to make diagnostic conclusions using ohms when we can avoid it, so for our final test...

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...our tech hooked the pump up to a cheater cord directly connected to the wall outlet. And it ran just fine!

As I'm sure you saw, those last two tests were completely superfluous. The problem is obviously with the power supply to the pump, not with the pump itself.

So what is the problem? Well, if you haven't figured it out yet... it's an open Neutral.

How do we know? It's the only explanation for the readings we got. The reason our tech got 0 volts on his very first test from pin 2 to 3 is because he was reading from Line potential to Line potential. With an open Neutral, there's no current through the load, and therefore no voltage drop. That means you have your full supply voltage present from the Line pin, all the way through the pump, and up to the Neutral pin.

It would look like this:

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Those voltage readings that our tech got were classic indicators of an open Neutral. Learn to recognize them, and you'll save yourself a bunch of time and headache with your troubleshooting!

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TOC1775

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Was he using a LoZ capable meter for his testing? If he didn't use one, would he have gotten different results if he DID use one?

Bagram

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Thank you sir, for great explanation.

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Son of Samurai

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17 hours ago, TOC1775 said:

Was he using a LoZ capable meter for his testing? If he didn't use one, would he have gotten different results if he DID use one?

The tech didn’t specify in his post, but based on the test results he got, it sounds like he was using a loading meter. If he hadn’t, then he might have gotten ghost voltage readings when reading across the drain pump.

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kpanic

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It would be easier to understand what is happening if you mentioned at the beginning of the article that the measurements were taken without disconnecting the load.

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Son of Samurai

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24 minutes ago, kpanic said:

It would be easier to understand what is happening if you mentioned at the beginning of the article that the measurements were taken without disconnecting the load.

Good clarification! I added a little blurb making that explicit in the post.

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AQAppliances

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Isn't it good practice to measure from line to ground when reading 0 volts from line to neutral? I do that to isolate if I am missing line voltage or to look further into a missing neutral. 

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Son of Samurai

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On 3/14/2026 at 11:03 AM, AQAppliances said:

Isn't it good practice to measure from line to ground when reading 0 volts from line to neutral? I do that to isolate if I am missing line voltage or to look further into a missing neutral. 

The issue with testing this way is that it assumes the appliance is properly grounded. Most are, but you don’t want your troubleshooting to get thrown by a faulty installation.

Instead, you should use a known good Neutral as your reference. 

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Samurai Appliance Repair Man

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1 minute ago, Son of Samurai said:

you should use a known good Neutral as your reference. 

And an unswitched Neutral.

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Richie Mac

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This is a great topic to discuss; I have hit plenty of these in my brief tenure and finally it has been explained so thank you @Son of Samurai

I will make the assumption that the Control Board would close that Neutral, and it is not... so the replacement would be the Control Board?

In an effort to help others, there is a Bulletin (TB17-23) from GE discussing this issue.  I want to share it because I have witnessed a peer jump the shark... replace the board then try to operate before changing the pump and the old pump fried the new board.

I hope this tidbit helps others on down the line:

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Samurai Appliance Repair Man

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4 minutes ago, Richie Mac said:

I want to share it because I have witnessed a peer jump the shark... replace the board then try to operate before changing the pump and the old pump fried the new board.

Excellent point! After you've identified a failed power supply from a control board, you have to think about what might have caused that power supply to fail, especially when the intended load is a motor. In the DC world, you may be dealing with a loading down problem. In the AC world, an unintended path to ground may have developed which can over amp a triac. If that triac is gating a Neutral, this can cause an open Neutral. These are given as general examples of why motors should always be checked against specs when they're involved in a problem. I'm not implying that either of these phenomena are going on in this specific case. 

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Richie Mac

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53 minutes ago, Samurai Appliance Repair Man said:

Excellent point! After you've identified a failed power supply from a control board, you have to think about what might have caused that power supply to fail, especially when the intended load is a motor. In the DC world, you may be dealing with a loading down problem. In the AC world, an unintended path to ground may have developed which can over amp a triac. If that triac is gating a Neutral, this can cause an open Neutral. These are given as general examples of why motors should always be checked against specs when they're involved in a problem. I'm not implying that either of these phenomena are going on in this specific case. 

The more I learn, the more Electricity fascinates me!  You folks are incredible with the knowledge & I appreciate your willingness to share it 😃

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