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Sealed system repairs: the mystique, the reality


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Many professional appliance techs do not currently offer refrigerator sealed system repairs but are thinking about adding it to their service repertoire. In this post, I’ll offer some thoughts to help you decide if this makes sense for your service area. I'll also offer some resources for learning sealed system repair if you decide that makes sense for you. I encourage any of my Brethren in the Craft to post their comments and experience. 

The false mystique of sealed system repair 

First, understand that actually doing sealed system repairs is distinct from diagnosing a sealed system problem to begin with. Here’s the reality: it's easy to train PCMs on how to do sealed system work; it’s much harder to train technicians how to think and diagnose warm refrigerator problems correctly and cleverly. And you know what they say: If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. If all a guy knows is how to do sealed system work, guess what: every warm refrigerator problem looks like a sealed system problem. Yes, I actually know guys like this. 

In fact, I've found that a lot guys who do sealed system work don't actually understand how the sealed system works. I know, it sounds crazy! But that's the dirty little secret of sealed system work: you don't have to understand the thermodynamics of a refrigeration system, you just have to know how to follow a procedure and wield a torch. It's a PCM's wet dream! 

Doing sealed system work is a matter of following a procedure, paying attention to details, using some expensive equipment, reading pressure gauges and weight scales, and acquiring some degree of proficiency with brazing copper (and soon, Lokring). When I first started doing sealed system work 20+ years ago, there was a definite cool factor--playing with gauges, vacuum pumps, and torches just like in all the pictures. After I fixed my first one, I strutted around like a rooster, "Yeah, I'm a badass like those guys in RSES magazine!" But then I found sealed system work quickly became boring and repetitive and that troubleshooting refrigerator problems was a much more commonly needed skill and was also more interesting.

Brazing copper lines seems to be the skill that most techs are in awe of. My dear old dad, Grant Brown (of blessed memory) owned Hillphoenix Refrigeration, a company in Conyers, GA, that manufactures commercial refrigeration systems. I worked there as kid growing up and during summers while I was studying engineering at the University of Georgia. Anyway, Grant Brown had a saying, “Any asshole can learn how to braze copper; it takes a highly paid asshole to learn how to weld steel.” 

The point is that in the range of physical skills required for metalwork, brazing copper is a relatively easy one and thus not highly compensated in the industrial world. 

Everett Ball was Grant Brown's star brazer, shaping and making the copper pipe connections on compressor racks (these were commercial multiple compressor systems to allow staged refrigeration capacity to more closely match the refrigeration load). Everett Ball was an absolute artist with copper. He could shape the pipe and make perfect hand-made solder joints first time, every time, 100% free of pinholes. But ol' Everett liked his beer... and his vodka, and his bourbon, and probably even sterno and lighter fluid if he ran out of those. Grant Brown bailed him out of jail for DUI more times than I can remember (he knew the judge from Rotary Club). Everett also couldn't manage money so he was always "borrowing" money from Grant, which only delayed his inevitable bankruptcy and losing his house. And then there were the divorces (yes, plural). He didn't have a very big vocabulary but he could swear to make a drunken sailor blush. Although Everett was not the sharpest knife in the drawer (to put it kindly), the man was a frikkin' Picasso with copper and torch.

The point of that little story is this: don’t be freaked out about learning how to braze copper-- it’s a well-worn path that thousands of people with far less intelligence than you have mastered. A little practice with some silver solder and copper pieces and you’ll get it. 

Adding sealed system repairs to your service offerings

Having plucked the bloom of mystique off the sealed system rose, I’ll go on and discuss doing sealed system work from a business standpoint. 

Let me say right off the bat that doing sealed system repairs in the right circumstances is very high margin and profitable work. But the circumstances are all-important. I’ll talk about the good, the bad, and ugly. 

The length of time to complete a sealed system repair can vary from about two hours to half a day or more. The big variable is locating the leak and the difficulty in making the repair depending on where it is. Sometimes, it’s a slam dunk because it’s a known problem and the manufacturer has put out a service bulletin on it. For example, the leaky evaporator problems with some Whirlpool models and older Sub-Zero models. Other times, you have to use dye or some other leak locating technique to pinpoint the location of the leak. And then you may find the leak is in a location that’s difficult to access and physically awkward or nearly impossible to braze in. These stretch out the repair time and make for painful, tedious repairs. 

As you might gather from the foregoing, doing sealed system work as a warranty servicer is often a losing proposition. If you connect with the wrong company, you are essentially whoring out your time like a two-bit hooker and the manufacturer is completely exploiting you as such. Why do some of them do this? Because most servicers don't have enough self-respect to "just say no" and negotiate a fair compensation rate. 

The exceptions here are some high-end manufacturers like Sub-Zero because 1) they actually pay a reasonable rate for warranty sealed system work (without having to haggle) and 2) the COD referrals alone make it worthwhile. 

How about a business doing only COD sealed system work? Great gig if:

  • you can get enough of it,
  • you don’t like to think much (i.e., troubleshoot), and
  • you have a high tolerance for repetitive, manual labor.

But, yes, it would be high margin, high paying work relative to say, doing repairs on a throw-away Whirlpool vertical modular washer. 

But what if you could book two to four service calls on quality cooking appliances, either high-end brands or the upscale offerings of mainstream brands, in the same time span as one sealed system repair? Job average on high-end appliances is about $400 with an average time of about an hour each. Now you’re talking about:

  • comparable or even more money,
  • more customers taken care of,
  • much less tedium, and
  • you don’t come home feeling like you’ve been hit by a Mack truck from huffing solder fumes and working in a cramped, awkward position all day.

But doing these other types of jobs profitably does require more diagnostic expertise and understanding appliance technology. 

Let’s look at a couple of case studies as illustrative examples.

Case study 1: 11 year old Amana FDBM refrigerator, MN AFB2534DEW, retailed new for $1,300. Start device failed open and subsequently compressor start winding also failed open. Needs new start device (PN W10613606), compressor (PN W10309989), and filter dryer (PN WPW10143759 - replacing the filter dryer is SOP on any sealed system repair). Quoted Blue Book repair fee: $1,003.14  

Question: How likely is it that the customer will opt for the repair given 1) the age, 2) what they paid, and 3) that they can get a new one for about $1400?

Answer: A near-zero percent chance. 

Case study 2: 11 year old Sub-Zero 700TFI built-in all-freezer, retailed new for $6,985. Open winding in 3-phase compressor. Needs new compressor (PN 7002026), upgraded control board (PN 4204380), and filter-dryer (PN 3014230). Quoted Blue Book repair fee: $1,449.98

Question: How likely is it that the customer will opt for the repair given 1) the age, 2) what they paid, and 3) what it would cost to purchase and install a new one?

Answer: Extremely likely.

Do you see a pattern here? Because of the cost of doing sealed system work, you probably won’t be doing much of it on lower to mid-level appliances unless you signed a “sucker’s contract” with one of the manufacturers who don’t pay very much for sealed system work. Do your homework and negotiate the rate!  

Moral of the story: You probably won’t do much profitable sealed system work unless you’re working on high-end and usually built-in refrigerators such as Sub-Zero. As mentioned before, if you can get a Sub-Zero authorized servicer contract, this would be a big boon to your business. Pretty much anyone else: fuggetaboutit. (Your market may vary: do your research!)

The 90-10 rule

Finally, let's keep in mind an important rule of thumb: over 90% of the normal mix of refrigerator calls you run will be due to a control problem, not a sealed system problem. So you need to ask yourself if it's worth tooling up for sealed system work ($1,500 to $2,000) for what will amount to less than 10% of the refrigerator calls you run. Seems to me you'd want to make sure you have the 90% calls dialed in first, that you're able to accurately troubleshoot control problems because that's where most of your money will be made. 

The 90-10 rule also means that if you're going to offer COD-only sealed system repairs to your customers, you're going to have lots of expensive equipment and sealed system doo-dads and nick-nacks sitting around not being used most of the time, cluttering up your shop or truck.  

Of course, the foregoing comments do not apply if you have a lucrative Sub-Zero authorized servicer contract- in that case, doing sealed system work is a no-brainer.  

Handling "gray areas"

What if you don't offer sealed system repairs, you run a warm refrigerator call and diagnose a sealed system fault- how do you handle this with your customer? As we saw previously, if it's a lower- to mid-level refrigerator then it almost certainly doesn't make sense for the customer to have a sealed system repair anyway. You would advise them of this and collect your service call fee. 

The gray area is the "affordable luxury" line, such as the $3,000 Samsungs or LGs. This is a tougher call because a COD sealed system repair would make sense here. And diagnosing a sealed system fault in these models requires more technical finesse, so you will definitely earn your service call fee. But we may have a perception issue with the customer. How do we handle this?

First, recognize that this situation is the rare exception, not the rule, and we don't structure our business systems around exceptions. You definitely need to charge something otherwise you're sending the message that the valuable skill you just provided in diagnosing the problem isn't worth anything. An easy customer perception management technique is to give a discount off your service call fee, say $25. This feels like a significant discount to most people and usually preserves good will.

EPA "certification"

The EPA has some silly regulations based on politically-motivated "science" requiring refrigerant recovery.

The short story behind these regulations is that Dupont's patent on R-12 (a CFC refrigerant) was expiring so they funded lots of "studies" at American universities purporting to show that CFC  molecules caused ozone depletion. How do I know this? I was a graduate student in Environmental Systems Engineering at Clemson University in the mid- to late 80's when these studies were being funded and carried out. Everyone knew Dupont was funding these studies and the bullshit agenda behind them but the political fix was in

So now to purchase refrigerant and do sealed system work, you have to have an EPA "certification." 

You'll occasionally come across guys swaggering about getting their EPA certification. The way you hear some of them cluck, you'd think they'd been inducted into Mensa. Or that they must be wizards with a rare understanding of the thermodynamics of refrigeration cycles and keen, penetrating insight into the intricacies of using a pressure-enthalphy graph to design refrigeration systems. Time for a reality check...

To work on residential refrigeration sealed systems, EPA requires that you have a "Section 608, Type I" certification. Section 608 refers to the regulatory code. What do you think that the EPA, being yet another dumbass government regulatory agency, cares about with these silly tests? Thermodynamics? Pressure-enthalpy graphs?

Not even close.

These tests are conspicuously void of any science or engineering. All the the EPA cares about is that you can parrot back the regulatory requirements for each certification "Type." The "Types" just refer to the size of the refrigeration system as defined by the pounds of refrigerant used in the system. 

You can get a Type I certification by taking a quick online, open-book quiz. Here's one of hundreds of places that offer this. Download their regulatory study guide, parrot the answers back on the open-book quiz and, behold!, you are now a "certified" refrigeration technician... in the eyes of the EPA. 

In other words, you don't need to know the first thing about how refrigeration systems work but as long as you can parrot back the right answers about the regulations, you, too, can be an EPA certified "technician" and write home to momma about it, "Look, Maw, I done got me a gubmint certification. Ain't you just so proud?"  

Yes, it's a minor hoop you have to jump through if you're going to do sealed system work. If you hear some guy bragging about getting an EPA certification like it was some kind of life accomplishment, then know that you are talking to someone who rode the short bus to school and would get gold stars for spelling his name right. 

 

I hope my comments have been helpful to you in charting your business course. I’ll leave you with some resources for pursuing sealed system repairs should you decide that’s where you want your business to go. 

If you’d like to get better at diagnosing refrigerators to determine if it’s the sealed system or (more likely) a control issue, then check out the Refrigerator Repair course at the Master Samurai Tech Academy.

Any comments or questions? Please post them below. 

Good luck! 

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  Tell it like it is brother!!!!   not everyone knows this......"The short story behind these regulations is that Dupont's patent on R-12 (a CFC refrigerant) was expiring so they funded lots of "studies" at American universities purporting to show that CFC  molecules caused ozone depletion. How do I know this? I was a graduate student in Environmental Systems Engineering at Clemson University in the mid- to late 80's when these studies were being funded and carried out. Everyone knew Dupont was funding these studies and the bullshit agenda behind them but the political fix was in. "

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16 minutes ago, SWFServicePro1 said:

Tell it like it is brother!!!!   not everyone knows this......

Thanks, Jim. Just doing my small part to help set the record straight on the CFC-induced ozone depletion myth. 

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I'm completely torn on whether to argue or agree with you. I'll just say it's been very good for us, and for a larger company it would be a glaring omission to not do the work. For a single-truck operator, it could definitely take up time you don't have to spare. Charging appropriately and taking into account extra visits to track down leaks, rework visits, and supplies is the important part. I can't imagine our business without sealed system repairs.

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Thanks for your comments, Todd, but I think you're disagreeing with something I did not say. To quote myself from the post:

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Let me say right off the bat that doing sealed system repairs in the right circumstances is very high margin and profitable work. But the circumstances are all-important. I’ll talk about the good, the bad, and ugly. 

I am not saying that doing sealed system work is a losing proposition. I am saying that:

  • It's easy to learn and is not the big mystery skill that many techs think it is - if someone can watch a few videos and follow a procedure, they can do sealed system work.
  • It's much easier to train someone to do sealed system work than it is to train someone how to diagnose warm refrigerator problems correctly, accurately, and cleverly. In fact, I know companies that will train a guy to do only sealed system work. The owner or lead tech diagnoses the problem. If a sealed system problem is diagnosed, they send in the sealed system guy and that's all he does all day, every day. This is an extremely profitable arrangement because the sealed system guy is a relatively low-skilled, low-paid worker who gets maybe $50/sealed system repair and the owner charges $600 and up for the job. What a deal! 
  • You don't need to understand refrigeration cycle thermodynamics to actually do sealed system; in fact, many guys who do sealed system do not understand refrigeration cycle thermodynamics, using a P-H graph, or even a P-T saturation table, or basic concepts like superheat and subcooling.
  • Sealed system work is very profitable under the right circumstances (which I go on to discuss).
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I read it, I swear! I agree with your completely valid points. I view sealed system repairs as more highly skilled positions because to do the work well from diagnosis to completion, you have to understand all the complexities of a refrigeration system, AND you also have to possess some brazing skill. I say this as someone inept at oxyacetylene torches. Thank you for the detailed post and thoughtful reply.

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Ah, you made the key distinction: 

31 minutes ago, beyonddoubt said:

to do the work well from diagnosis to completion

These skills are not always combined. Nice when they are but they need not be.

I suggest that the diagnostic skills are where the money is at. Train some kid to do sealed system repairs and that's all the guy does for something slightly above minimum wage. Great entry level skill for any young kid, easy to train them on, and most kids totally get off on the whole sealed system rig and brazing gig (I know I did). It's macho! it's badass! it's a cool thing to tell the babes at the disco! (do they still have discos?)

But it's also something for them to grow out of because anyone in their right mind would get burned out on that fast. After a year or two of that combined with refrigerator diagnostic training at the MST Academy (shameless plug), then you have him doing more diagnostic work. 

This way, you save your better troubleshooters for where they're needed most and don't waste their time doing menial sealed system repairs. 

31 minutes ago, beyonddoubt said:

Thank you for the detailed post and thoughtful reply.

Thanks for yours! 

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23 minutes ago, Samurai Appliance Repair Man said:

It's macho! it's badass! it's a cool thing to tell the babes at the disco!

Well, that's how you won me over :fighter1:

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I don't do sealed system repairs but will be doing so in the near future. As of right now if the customer wants the system repair than I do not charge them a service call fee. I know I took my time and gave them my knowledge for the repair but I do not feel right about taking someone's money and telling them I can't do the job. 

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If you’ve been through the sealed system webinar series here at Appliantology, then you can appreciate that it takes some sophisticated understanding to correctly and accurately diagnose a sealed system problem. And it requires a significant expenditure of time and gray matter to acquire said knowledge.

Information is valuable. That’s the whole premise of Appliantology and the entire internet. If you don't value what you know, you can't expect your customers to value it, either.

But if a tech doesn't know much, then your premise is absolutely correct— he shouldn’t charge much.

There’s another topic at in the forums with this discussion— you may want to join that conversation 

 

 

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I know how to diagnose and repair them. I just don't have the equipment. When I was working for GE I did many sealed system repairs. I just don't see the point in buying the equipment since 99 out of 100 customers opt for a new unit. 

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One of the points of the post was that there’s a big difference between diagnosing and repairing. Diagnosing is the brain work, repairing is the grunt work. 

The main point of the blog post was not how you charge your customers— that conversation is happening in the topic I linked in my previous reply. 

The point of this blog post (may be worth re-reading) is offering some information to help a business owner decide if doing sealed system work makes sense for their business and under what circumstances. 

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The point of this blog post (may be worth re-reading) is offering some information to help a business owner decide if doing sealed system work makes sense for their business and under what circumstances. 

 

And thats exactly where its at

i dont see a lot of sealed system issues

this week saw a freezer with total gas loss after customer moved it 

my estimation it was halfway through its expected lifespan yet repair cost would be near half a new freezer 

customer advised of all options and they made the decision to go for new 

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Samurai, 

I found your post here to be hilarious as well as informative.  The story about your father's star brazer and alcoholic hall-of-famer  was very interesting as well. I did a short stint in a technical school and will concur that my "Universal Refrigeration license" is exactly the way you said it is.  (although I confess I did feel pretty good about it at the time!)  

  It reminds me of when I worked for a friend who had a large electrical contracting company who desperately needed to finish some large jobs. Of course to be legal he had to make me an official Apprentice.  But when the very official-looking Wallet card came in the mail- it said,  "State of Nebraska Licensed Electrician"!  I laughed and told my wife that all that meant was that the boss had $20 and I had a pulse.

 I agree that the whole, "global warming" (oops-I mean, "climate change) thing is a money-grubbing farce. I've heard propane is the perfect drop in for R12 but that it's illegal because of flammability issues (nevermind that you got 30 gallons of gasoline on board already).

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On 8/28/2018 at 7:36 PM, Bintiwangu said:

I agree that the whole, "global warming" (oops-I mean, "climate change) thing is a money-grubbing farce.

Also part of the Global Plantation agenda (Agenda 21, global government, forced vaccinations, etc.)

On 8/28/2018 at 7:36 PM, Bintiwangu said:

I've heard propane is the perfect drop in for R12

Works great! Long time ago, I recharged an old R-12 fridge with propane (right out of my grill tank) and it ran perfectly in my basement for over 15 years. 

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No, R-12 is not flammable but, in the presence of flame, it will break down in toxic combustion byproducts. 

Fun fact to know and tell: R-12 was used as a surgical anesthetic in the early 1900s. 

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@Samurai Appliance Repair Man Amazing blog post. Enjoyable, entertaining, and informative. I’m very glad I found this as I was trying to figure out if I should learn sealed system repair. Definitely not going to be learning it any time soon as it doesn’t make sense from a business standpoint for me. Thank you for helping me make an educated decision! Probably saved me lots of headaches and wasted time!

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"Finally, let's keep in mind an important rule of thumb: over 90% of the normal mix of refrigerator calls you run will be due to a control problem, not a sealed system problem. So you need to ask yourself if it's worth tooling up for sealed system work ($1,500 to $2,000) for what will amount to less than 10% of the refrigerator calls you run. Seems to me you'd want to make sure you have the 90% calls dialed in first, that you're able to accurately troubleshoot control problems because that's where most of your money will be made. "

 

Yup, bout sums it up for me

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On 9/1/2018 at 7:37 AM, Samurai Appliance Repair Man said:

Also part of the Global Plantation agenda (Agenda 21, global government, forced vaccinations, etc.)

 

Wow, you called those forced vaccinations way back in 2018 brother!  

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Could see it coming a mile away. It's not a secret. These globalists have been writing books and white papers on this stuff for decades. They know that most people won't read it and wouldn't take it seriously even if they did. These are seriously psycophatic people with more power, influence, and money that we can imagine. I take very seriously what they say. Doesn't mean it will all happen. But it does mean they'll sure as hell try and are trying.

Next psyop: fake alien invasion. 

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3 hours ago, Samurai Appliance Repair Man said:

Could see it coming a mile away. It's not a secret. These globalists have been writing books and white papers on this stuff for decades. They know that most people won't read it and wouldn't take it seriously even if they did. These are seriously psycophatic people with more power, influence, and money that we can imagine. I take very seriously what they say. Doesn't mean it will all happen. But it does mean they'll sure as hell try and are trying.

Next psyop: fake alien invasion. 

How do you think they will frame this “alien invasion” psyop??
 

Have you also read the protocols of the learned elders of Zion ??

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Osayi said:

How do you think they will frame this “alien invasion” psyop??

Depends on how they think people will react. These “balloons” being hyped in the news may be their way of gauging people’s reaction to the headlines they’re “floating” in the news. That will shape the story they’ll try to sell.

This world is controlled by story tellers because we— you, me, and all humans on earth— are controlled by stories. Depends on which story you follow: their manipulative lying stories that teach fear, anxiety, self preservation and hatred of people different from you all promoted through the “news” media. Or do you follow a story that comes from a long wisdom tradition which teaches self sacrifice and preserving and nurturing life? That’s a rhetorical question, no need to answer. 

1 hour ago, Osayi said:

Have you also read the protocols of the learned elders of Zion ??

I’ve read enough to know it’s fake. That’s not the kind of stuff these psychos write. They write respectable white papers and books with real names associated with them, not pseudonyms like the elders of Zion hoax (that’s the first clue they’re fake).

Read “Survival of the Wisest” by Jonas Salk (yes, the guy who “invented” the killer small pox vaccine). He writes that the scientific class has an evolutionary imperative to “manage” (ie, kill off) the population of us little people using vaccines to keep us sick and shorten our lives. Buy it on Amazon and read it yourself.

Or read “Tragedy and Hope” by Carroll Quigley, former Georgetown history professor and Bill Clinton’s mentor. He talks about the “hope” of overcoming the “tragedy” of man’s existence by establishing a one world technocratic government. The PDF is available for free online. 

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7 hours ago, Samurai Appliance Repair Man said:

Depends on how they think people will react. These “balloons” being hyped in the news may be their way of gauging people’s reaction to the headlines they’re “floating” in the news. That will shape the story they’ll try to sell.

This world is controlled by story tellers because we— you, me, and all humans on earth— are controlled by stories. Depends on which story you follow: their manipulative lying stories that teach fear, anxiety, self preservation and hatred of people different from you all promoted through the “news” media. Or do you follow a story that comes from a long wisdom tradition which teaches self sacrifice and preserving and nurturing life? That’s a rhetorical question, no need to answer. 

I’ve read enough to know it’s fake. That’s not the kind of stuff these psychos write. They write respectable white papers and books with real names associated with them, not pseudonyms like the elders of Zion hoax (that’s the first clue they’re fake).

Read “Survival of the Wisest” by Jonas Salk (yes, the guy who “invented” the killer small pox vaccine). He writes that the scientific class has an evolutionary imperative to “manage” (ie, kill off) the population of us little people using vaccines to keep us sick and shorten our lives. Buy it on Amazon and read it yourself.

Or read “Tragedy and Hope” by Carroll Quigley, former Georgetown history professor and Bill Clinton’s mentor. He talks about the “hope” of overcoming the “tragedy” of man’s existence by establishing a one world technocratic government. The PDF is available for free online. 

Thank you very much 

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On 2/13/2023 at 7:25 PM, Samurai Appliance Repair Man said:

Next psyop: fake alien invasion. 

It has begun

 

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