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Perplexing disorder in my once dependable washer

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So....great gurus of the appliance world....I have a Maytag washer that doesn't spin.....Here's what it does do....

1) It agitates on all settings (delicate, permanent press, wrinkle control) and in the wash, rinse & spin cycles.

2) It fills to the proper levels and drains...hot & cold work, it goes into the rinse cycle and sprays water as it needs to during this cycle before going into spin.

3) On the delicate setting, during the wash cycle, the tub gives a very weak attempt to spin while it is agitating. I think this is normal for the delicate cycle. When the tub stops trying to spin, I can turn it by hand until stops completely like the brake is stopping it. It's not easy to turn. When I am able to spin the tub by hand (again all of this is only on the delicate cycle), the tub is able to go both ways.

4) On the other 2 settings (permanent press & wrinkle control) in the wash cycle, the tub stays in place and does not spin. It only agitates.

5) I did change the transmission pulley kit along with the belt and this did nothing to help my case. Boo!

6) When I looked under the machine to watch the belt during the agitate and spin cycles, it only moved one direction. The motor does not "reverse" directions to account for the spin cycle.

7) I can turn all pulleys freely in both directions.

8) When I turn the transmission pulley counterclockwise to release the brake, the cams do not move up or down to release the brake. I can take a screwdriver and push the cam into place to release the brake and the tub will spin...

9) Before it started misbehaving, it did make a clunking noise while it was on the wash cycle and made no funny noises while it was on spin cycle on any setting.

10) On my last test, to my surprise, it decided it wanted to start spinning (the brake released) on the wash cycle while in the delicate setting and when I put it to spin, it went right back to agitate....so just to test one more time, I put it back in wash and it agitated with no spin and did the same in the spin cycle.

11) I've tested the lid switch for continuity and contact....passed with flying colors. I've also checked the timer as well, perfect, too.

I have been through every forum I could possibly go through and I have no idea what it could be....

I'm down to these possible causes:

1) Transmission is shot

3) Motor is shot

4) Maybe a faulty brake?

I'm at my wits end. I have the matching dryer and I've had to replace the motor on that....no big deal. Why can't the washer be that simple?

Any ideas?

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I looked hither and yonder for a model number in your post but, alas, 'twas none to be found.

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I looked hither and yonder for a model number in your post but, alas, 'twas none to be found.

:blink: did you look at the sub-topic ?

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Nyet, tovarish. I posted my reply from my iphone-- subtopics don't show up in the mobil theme. That'll learn me to try and stay responsive in the forum while on the road! :argh:

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subtopics don't show up in the mobil theme.

could it be the text size OR color ?

can you see the next 3 lines :

line 1 test size 2 grey

line 2 test size 1 black

line 3 test size 1 gray

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Must be the subtopic that doesn't show up in your phone.....because I posted it. Maytag MAVT236AWW. Mfg date. 4/17/2006.

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So are you saying that the motor does not reverse? if so, could be a timer issue

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That was my original thought, but the belt spins counterclockwise while it's agitating and it drains while it's agitating. The belt does not spin clockwise like it should for agitation. I spoke to a serviceman and he said it's definitely a transmission issue. What do you think?

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If the unit is pumping while it should be agitating, what is the agitator doing?

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A most insightful and penetrating question, Master kdog!

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Well....as I said....it's agitating. Basically, it goes through the wash cycles like it normally should, except it doesn't lightly spin while in the delicate cycle while agitating like it should. Then it goes right on over to the rinse cycle (still agitating) and draining....again no spin, no water remaining in the tub as the rinse cycle should have....and when we get to the spin....oh, oh, what a surprise...it's still AGITATING. That's what the agitator is doing. Agitating just like it's agitating me.

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OK - got it, agitates no matter which direction the motor turns; not looking good for your transmission!

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That's what I was thinking. I thought that might be it the first time around, but then I read so many other posts that pointed to other components and I got so confused! I didn't want to get rid of it if it was cheap part and not too hard to replace......grrr.....those d^%# transmissions....always going out... Thanks for your "quick" response. I appreciate the confirmation of my original diagnosis. :)

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... grrr.....those d^%# transmissions....always going out...

older Maytag, yes

not the Whirlpools and the newer Whirlpool built Maytags

Whirlpool built Amana ATW4475VQ @ HomeDepot

$ 298 w/free shipping

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older Maytag, yes

not the Whirlpools and the newer Whirlpool built Maytags

Whirlpool built Amana ATW4475VQ @ HomeDepot

$ 298 w/free shipping

So Whirlpool builds Maytags now? How does one keep track of who is actually behind all the various brand names?

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Research, research, research. Come to find out, my Maytag that went out, was a Magic Chef with Maytag's name on it. Nice right? Apparently Maytag was purchased by Whirlpool right around 2006.

Here's few links....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9042011/ns/business-us_business/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maytag

RegUS ~ thanks for the recommendation...I'm actually thinking about this one...

http://www.samsung.com/us/appliances/washers-dryers/WF210ANW/XAA

Consumerreports.org didn't give it the best rating but I've seen a lot of good reviews and not much in the way of issues. Your thoughts?

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Samsung parts & labor may be hard to find

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WHY is everybody lured to these LGs and Samsung appliances like moths to light bulbs? Does everybody like giving their money to China and Korea? Buy American! Buy Maytag or Whirlpool!

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WHY is everybody lured to these LGs and Samsung appliances like moths to light bulbs? Does everybody like giving their money to China and Korea? Buy American! Buy Maytag or Whirlpool!

As they say in Chinatown: 我們都是中國人,現在

and in Koreatown: 우리는 이제 모든 한국인 아르

Or in Scottthewolf's town: :silly:

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Yes, and I gave my money to a Japanese car company that hasn't let our family down in over 30 years. :) The funny thing is that 70% of the car is manufactured right here in the USA. The engine...well....overseas.

Of course, I do own a Mazda B2300....who makes that? Why Ford of course...that's an American made car and if I'm not mistaken is producted in St. Paul, MN. Of course some of the parts are made in Canada.

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Sadly, they are closing down this plant this year. Keep on buying imports and this is what will continue to happen to our US economy and keep laying people off.

Get it right people, the profits still go to Japan or China, NOT the US.

Edited by Scottthewolf

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Then the American workers need to be better at what they do. Sadly, it's all the American made parts on my car that have broken or busted....and it's only piddly stuff that makes the bigger pieces work. For example...Ford Mustang power window motor....and this is probably true for a lot of power window motor...but after a while they stop working to roll up and down the window...sure you can hear the motor running but the window is not moving. You know what causes this? This little "plastic" piece the gears run on eventually breaks. You know why it breaks? Becuase of the "auto" feature on the window switch. People use it and when the window rolls up to close or the rolls down to open, the window motor takes a minute to "sense" the window is stopped so the motor keeps going for 1/2 second or a second afterwards. What happens? That plastic piece gets more wear and tear on it than it should and eventually snaps off. Now the funny thing is you can't just find another little plastic piece to replace it or glue the plastic piece back together. Nope, you have to buy the whole window motor. Now guess where the part is made? The U.S.A. I can see the manufacturer's angle, keep it plastic, piece breaks, get more business...but if the manufacturer makes it as a metal piece, then hey, it lasts longer and the manufacturer gets a better reputaion. People will buy from manufacturers with good reps.

Now back to the washer...I had a Maytag, it lasted 4 1/2 years...I'd prefer not to have to buyer a washer every 4 1/2 years.

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Of course some of the parts are made in Canada.

:thumbsup: Yep, the best ones !!! (Part #99 and #87)

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Yes, and I gave my money to a Japanese car company that hasn't let our family down in over 30 years.

... and I bet parts & labor were expensive (and hard to find) back then (and now)

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<<<WHY is everybody lured to these LGs and Samsung appliances like moths to light bulbs? Does everybody like giving their money to China and Korea? Buy American! Buy Maytag or Whirlpool!>>>

<<<Sadly, they are closing down this plant this year. Keep on buying imports and this is what will continue to happen to our US economy and keep laying people off.

Get it right people, the profits still go to Japan or China, NOT the US.>>>

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Another example of morbid absurdity...

Madbrad Wrote:

"The last point is hypocracy. Is every component in your home made by a domestic company or even by workers in the US? Check your TV and your clock radio, your ceramic tiles and hardwood, cabinets, kitchen table, why, we even have things we ar PROUD to tell people are imported! Anyone have bamboo floors? It doesn't grow here!"

Scott Replied:

"Thank You, madbrad, finally somebody who sees it from my perspective."

Scott---you posted the following statement several months ago.

Obviously you've got either a v-e-r-y short memory or you're not one to keep his word...

Scott Wolfe Wrote:

<<<I'll stop my bashing, I will just post my customers quotes from now on.>>>

Edited by john63

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