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Kenmore 80 series top load washer

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Please help! My Kenmore 80 series (model # 11026832691) was grinding during spin cycle. Replaced the brake and drive tube and the clutch. Disassembled the transmission completely to check for damage. Despite the fact that all internal transmission parts looked fine (nothing broken or obviously damaged), I replaced the main plastic gear and all small parts using kit #388253. Cleaned internal transmission thoroughly, refilled with new oil and replaced gasket. Reinstalled transmission and motor into unit and tested mechanism before reinstalling drum, agitator, etc. Agitate and spin cycles worked flawlessly at both speeds with no noises! Reinstalled remaining parts and tested again before turning on water. Agitate worked perfectly, but the spin cycle was grinding like crazy again! Pulled the agitator, but left drum installed to retest and visually inspect mechanism. Here's what happens: when the spin cycle begins the drum turns quietly and the drive shaft oscillates slowly as I believe it should, but once the drum builds up speed the drive shaft starts "slipping"; i.e. it spins completely around and the grinding noise follows. What am I missing???

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Did you replace the motor coupling?  It sounds like yours is getting ready to break. They get noisy when they are ready to break.

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You didn't change the original bad part in the transmission!

 

If when in spin the agitator shaft is moving back and forth instead of just freely spinning in the same direction the basket is spinning and able to be stopped easily by hand you have a bad agitate shift cam, (cam ramps are worn down - you can't tell by looking), the nylon cam assembly that lifts the agitate gear off the internal spines isn't lifting the gear high enough any more to clear the splines so it keeps trying to agitate while spinning, the noise is the agitate gear slipping over the top of the splines because they are only slight engaged.

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  I gave exact same advice on another forum and he has ordered the cam kit.

 

Eric

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Thanks for the advice everyone.  I've ordered a new shift cam and will replace it.  I'll also take another look at the shift actuator, but it didn't appear to be damaged in any way.  I do know about the disc and ball bearing that reside beneath the agitator shaft and will be careful not to lose them.  I'll post the results of my handiwork and your advice as soon as I've finished.  I'm enjoying this rebuild, but my wife is losing patience!  Sorry for the overlap in forums.  I'm new to this...


p.s.  I did carefully inspect the motor coupling for cracks and wear, but it seems to be in perfect shape.


Thanks,

 

JP

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Thanks for the advice everyone. I've ordered a new shift cam and will replace it. I'll also take another look at the shift actuator, but it didn't appear to be damaged in any way. I do know about the disc and ball bearing that reside beneath the agitator shaft and will be careful not to lose them. I'll post the results of my handiwork and your advice as soon as I've finished. I'm enjoying this rebuild, but my wife is losing patience! Sorry for the overlap in forums. I'm new to this...

p.s. I did carefully inspect the motor coupling for cracks and wear, but it seems to be in perfect shape.

Thanks,

JP

Tell your wife that a few patients are worth losing to repair this machine. All new machines currently on the market aren't built as strong as this one.

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Last night I replaced the cam with a new one and also noticed that the shift actuator arms were not consistently engaging the cam, which may have been the major problem.  I bent the actuator arms slighly inward and this seemed to correct the shifting issue.  Reassembled the machine and now it works like a new one!  Agitate and spin perform flawlessly and quietly on all settings.  Happy, happy, happy!  Thanks again for your advice.

 

JP 

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