Whirlpool Direct Drive Washer Transmissions

[Budget Appliance Repair]

Are you sure you really need to try and turn the drum by hand when it doesn't spin - try to just lift the lid and close it.

If the timer doesn't pause correctly it won't disengage the neutral drain - opening the lid simulates this pause, (turning the tub by hand may not be necessary).

[Jaysb77]

5 hours ago, Budget Appliance Repair said:

Are you sure you really need to try and turn the drum by hand when it doesn't spin - try to just lift the lid and close it.

If the timer doesn't pause correctly it won't disengage the neutral drain - opening the lid simulates this pause, (turning the tub by hand may not be necessary).

Hi thanks for the suggestion. I tried what you said and it didn't work but it game me an idea to maybe try it again and that works. Maybe doing it twice gives it that pause it needs.

Here is what I did.instead of turning the tub by hand counter clockwise if I push the switch in to stop the machine and then pull it out to restart it, it won't spin but if I do it again then it makes that clunk sound rrleasing the brake and it spins the inner tub.

This will work with the lid too but I have to do it twice. What would be causing this?

I have to say this is way easier than having to spun the tub by hand counter clockwise so thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks,

JB

 

[bowhunter]

Those lid switches can be an issue. They’re glued together like 2 pieces of a clam shell. They usually fail when they come apart in the same area. Sometimes they’ll work and sometimes not. It is a very typical problem. I would check the lid switch and see if it’s coming apart. When the post on the lid hits the actuator instead of engaging the switch, it pushes it apart.

[Jaysb77]

36 minutes ago, bowhunter said:

Those lid switches can be an issue. They’re glued together like 2 pieces of a clam shell. They usually fail when they come apart in the same area. Sometimes they’ll work and sometimes not. It is a very typical problem. I would check the lid switch and see if it’s coming apart. When the post on the lid hits the actuator instead of engaging the switch, it pushes it apart.

The lid switch looks fine from what I can see. Maybe I'll use a jumper to bypass the lid switch to see if it has the same issue.

Thanks,

JB

[Jaysb77]

8 minutes ago, Jaysb77 said:

The lid switch looks fine from what I can see. Maybe I'll use a jumper to bypass the lid switch to see if it has the same issue.

Thanks,

JB

Here is what I have to do to get it to work. As you can see in the video it was agitating then i stop it and turn it to spin. When I turn It back on it sounds like it's spinning but it isn't. Then I turn it off and back on again and you can hear the brake release and spins the tub.

Any ideas is this a bad timer?

Thanks,

JB

[bowhunter]

When you put in spin mode and it doesn’t spin try moving the timer post up and down and see if that does the same thing as when you disengage and engage the timer. You just might have a faulty timer.

[Jaysb77]

34 minutes ago, bowhunter said:

When you put in spin mode and it doesn’t spin try moving the timer post up and down and see if that does the same thing as when you disengage and engage the timer. You just might have a faulty timer.

I was thinking a bad timer too. So do you mean wiggle it a bit. I'll give that a try. I don't even think you can buy a timer for these machines anymore or can you?

I just started a load and as soon as It finished draining it didn't spin so I just opened the lid and closed it and opened the lid and closed it again and the brake released and the tub spun. 

Thanks,

JB

 

[bowhunter]

It’s probably the vibration from the lid that causes your timer to engage. Yes, I mean for you to wiggle it up and down, and see if it engages the spin. You would have to look up your model # to see if the timer is available

[DADoESTX]

The video immediately above, in the post dated Nov 4, the machine is agitating before you stop it, advance the timer, and restart ... correct?

The transmission (properly) goes into neutral drain when restarting (motor reversal) for drain immediately after agitation.  It requires a 2nd stop and restart (in the same reverse motor direction) to release the neutral drain hold for spin to occur.  If you let the timer advance normally from the last agitation increment, to the (2 mins) drain increment, and then to the next increment for spin ... is there a momentary motor pause on BOTH the advance from agitate to drain AND from drain to spin?  If not, then there's your non-spin problem source ... the timer isn't stopping the motor for a 2nd pause between neutral drain and spin.  If there IS a 2nd pause, then the problem apparently is in the transmission with the neutral drain pack or some such.