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    • 23 November 2024 03:00 PM Until 04:00 PM
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      All Appliantology tech members are invited to join in the conversation for all things Appliantological: bidness, customers, tools, troubleshooting, flavorite brewski, whatever. Webcams and microphones are open and live!
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      When: Saturday, November 23 @10:00 AM Eastern Time.
      Where: Online via Zoom
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About a year ago, my Sub Zero 501R thermal protector (attached to the common terminal of the EM30SC compressor) cracked and I was unable to find a replacement and so I replaced the thermal protector and the current type relay with an aftermarket hard-start solid state unit (Supco RCO810 3 n' 1 START Hard Start Kit).  It has worked fine for a year but I suspect that the compressor was starting to go which stressed the original thermal protector (either that or that the aftermarket kit was a bad idea) and now the compressor appears to have failed.  The compressor ohms out OK (7/16/24) but it simply won't start and now the compressor has started to make a little growling sound when trying to start (bearings perhaps?).

I found a replacement compressor (EMI30ER1) which is 1/10 HP (tech specs here: http://www.alltemp.ca/wp-content/files_mf/1383318357EmbracoCat2013_email.pdf).  The Q: Would there be any reason, or benefit, to replacing it with a slightly larger 1/8 HP compressor instead?  The EMI45ER1 appears to be a slightly larger cousin and had the benefit of not requiring a start capacitor and is basically the same price. Also, under the "bigger is better" theory I'd expect that a bit more HP means that a slightly bigger unit wouldn't have to work as hard but not sure if that'd be wise (or if it would be the case) with a refrigerator compressor.

I'm having a hard time finding the replacement drier (SZ 3014230 was original or 7006964 is newer) but I found Supco SUD8358 as a cross-referenced replacement.  If anyone recommends against this, please let me know.

Last, I have all of the equipment (oxy-A torch, R12 recovery/charging unit, etc.) but I'd prefer to have a local person do the brazing (install the compressor and filter/drier) if you know of anyone near San Jose that'd be interested in just that part of the job.  I could take it from there.  

Just to have all of the 501R info in one place, the R-12 capacity is 8 oz for serial #s prior to M658665/P662865 or 9 oz for serial #s M658666-M1204240 or P662865 to P1214190.  Subsequent to those serial #s the unit apparently was charged with 134a and of course with a different compressor and parts than I've listed above. All this info is per this SZ technical data sheet: http://subzerospecialists.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/500techdata.pdf

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

Ruprik

Posted

There's no reason to replace it with anything other than what it's designed to have, and use original Sub Zero parts.  I think just about any qualified is going to want to do the job start to finish, so you may have trouble finding someone to do just part of it. 

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Posted

Thanks, LI-NY!  You are probably right on the tech so I ordered the 15% silver sticks also...no better time than the present to practice my brazing skills.

Posted

I wouldn't use a supco filter if I were you. 

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